Yeah I hear that from a lot of people too unfortunately. I myself raided in the past for cool gear and fun, nowadays it's a race to getting to 320 light... that's not how people should think of the raid, it shouldn't be a total chore there needs to be an element of fun or excitement. Like when my buddies and I first killed Oryx on normal that was awesome! And then completing the raid on hard hours before the first weekly reset so that we could say we did it in the first week was a great feeling! Now it's just 'meh if we can get peeps together lets try to get it done'... you know if I played VoG right now I wouldn't give a f**k about the gear, it'd be fun to play it, hell even soloing Crota raid would be a fun challenge again. Oryx raid however is just 'pfft lets get the mob spam raid outta the way and do something else fun'.