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Edited by Lucius Aelius:
12/23/2015 7:55:46 AM
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That's backwards, if anything they need to legalize all drugs so that drug dealers stop getting all the money, and they'll mostly go away on their own when they can't make a profit anymore.
Giving drugs to kids should be a severe punishment, but adults should be able to buy drugs legally, and anyone using hard drugs that overtly harm your health (which is most of them) should be required to go to therapy on a regular basis in order to obtain the drug they're addicted to as a way to get them to stop.
And that's not a perfect idea and it certainly needs tweaking to make it viable, but it's a hell of a lot better than funding the black market and organized crime by leaving them illegal, not to mention criminalizing users which prevents most of them from being able/inclined to seek help.
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[quote]Giving drugs to kids should be a severe punishment, but adults should be able to buy drugs legally, and anyone using hard drugs that overtly harm your health (which is most of them) should be required to go to therapy on a regular basis in order to obtain the drug they're addicted to as a way to get them to stop.[/quote] Why should my tax money go towards helping a smackhead get clean? Shit to that.
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So you'd rather have you tax money go into the things it's going into now ,aka prisons. Where you are paying for that "smack head" and also the piece of shit drug dealer that sold them the drugs. You're stupid to think going about it that way is better the getting them the help they need and keeping them outta jail.
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Edited by Lucius Aelius: 12/23/2015 8:21:54 AMThe money people use to buy drugs can be put towards treatment. And then there's the countless billions of dollars we're already wasting on an unwinnable war that has accomplished nothing and only serves to make matters worse the longer it goes, disproportionately punishing those at least fault. That's a lot of perfectly good money which we could be putting to much better use, partly drug treatment but also infrastructure, education and social programs to generally help everyone, especially homeless and poor people who are mostly being hung out to dry in our current society. Or you could just be a selfish piece of shit who only cares about yourself, but the rest of us who actually have a shred of humanity will keep right on caring for others and working to better all mankind, no exceptions.
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I'm not a selfish person. But I don't think that anyone who chooses to do drugs should be eligible for treatment. They made their bed... I used to work at a drug and alcohol advisory service and I honestly can say 90% of the people that used the syringe exchange and drop in service were the most awful human beings I ever met. Totally opened my eyes and forced a huge career change.
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Edited by Lucius Aelius: 12/23/2015 9:55:25 AMYou just defined yourself as being selfish, relegating others to obscurity and despair just because you don't think they're worth helping. Who the hell do you think you are to decide that about other people? They're sick and in need of help, and if you'd deny them that because you don't think they deserve a chance at redemption then you are absolutely selfish, not to mention remarkably full of yourself. Not everyone can necessarily be saved, but every life is worth trying to save anyway, no exceptions.
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Some people aren't worth helping and some people are simply beyond help. That's not selfish, that's just plain fact. Sorry, but I have an extremely black and white view of drug use. Working with users for 4 years did nothing but fill me with contempt. As I said, I'm not selfish but I do draw the line at feeling sympathy for people like that.
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[quote]Some people aren't worth helping and some people are simply beyond help. That's not selfish, that's just plain fact. Sorry, but I have an extremely black and white view of drug use. Working with users for 4 years did nothing but fill me with contempt. As I said, I'm not selfish but I do draw the line at feeling sympathy for people like that.[/quote] You are selfish. You're also disgusting. Please do everyone a favor & never go into any kind of public service position ever again. You seem to be an icily hateful individual & no person, drug user or not, should have to be subjected your borderline personality disorder treatment.
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Ha, OK guy...
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Edited by Lucius Aelius: 12/23/2015 3:34:47 PMWho the -blam!- are you to decide certain people aren't worth helping? No one has the right to decide that, not you, not me, not anybody. You're right that some people are beyond help, but there's no way for us to know who those people are without trying our best to help everyone, and if you don't agree then you're more a part of the problem than drug abusers. At least drug abusers have the excuse of being brain-addled to explain their behavior, what's your excuse for being such a shitty excuse for a human being? There's far more self-centered people like you than drug abusers, and it's people like you who think they know better and are better than other people that stop so much important work from being done in the world, all because you're too self-centered to be bothered to care or help anyone other than yourself and your own loved ones. People all over the world need to help each other more, not less, with NO EXCEPTIONS, that cannot be stressed enough. We are not gods, it is not our place to decide who should be helped and who shouldn't be, we couldn't possibly know enough to be able to decide that, and if you are actually deluded enough to think you can than you and people like you are one of the biggest things wrong with this world, far more so than a handful of smackheads who can't get their shit together without help, and maybe not even then but at least we can help them and see who can be saved by trying. Nothing else would be humane. And for the record I'm an atheist, I don't believe in helping others because some God says so, I believe in it because it's the good, right and humane thing to do, and it is whether you like it or not.
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That pretty much sums up the human race.
