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Edited by Lost Sols:
12/15/2015 6:09:44 AM
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[quote]Thorn together with TLW (I mean, I liked Thorn, I'll be honest, and I was better than a lot of other people with it), were destroying the balance in 6vs6.
The Sunbreaker was a much bigger problem in 6vs6, than he could have ever been in Trials.
Pulse Rifles were better than Scouts at range, and killed faster than ARs close range. They needed a nerf.[/quote]
The problem is that they were an issue for YOU.
Thorn wasn't sh*t to anyone who was good with their weapon of choice. Sunbreakers were the easiest super to avoid completely and not even have to deal with and could be shut down just like any other if players just kept their wits and didn't panic. Pulse Rifles were effective at scout range because they should be and always have been, but any decent player with a Scout was going to win that battle much more then they lost.
Just because you feel something is OP doesn't make it so.
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Edited by Killlerschaf: 12/15/2015 10:32:05 AMNo, they weren't an issue for me, like you want to make it sound. They were an issue for the overall balance of the Crucible. When something is clearly better than something else, then it's unbalanced. For PRs, the question isn't if they are an issue for me, the question was if they dominate AR and SR, making them the best primary at every range. And depending on the archetype, this was the case. A Messenger/similar PR destroyed Scout Rifles at range, pre patch. The Hammer of Sol isn't even worth a debate at this point. It was the strongest super in the game, thus it got nerfed and deserved that. Bungie even posted the numbers. It was the subclass with the highest KD and the highest super kill %. We do have access to certain numbers, and Thorn usage was through the roof back then. And as I said, I like the weapon. I use it nowadays because it's finally usable again. I personally never had a problem with Thorn, as I am generally the better player when I face opponents. And Thorn vs Thorn goes to the better player (ignoring lag). I can say the last sentence to you as well: Just because you don't realise that something is OP, doesn't mean that it isn't. (I am a top 1% player in terms of score per game average in Control and suicides (evading Arcblades and Hammer of Sols. Well, and Shores of Time+blink))
