I'm against the moaners among our class. What I am saying though is that alot of hunters are not moaners. We keep quiet, browsing interesting posts and avoiding the conflict. Alot of us don't even bother posting at all. Just because a bunch of moaners have soured the forums. It shouldn't be judged among the others. I have seen moaners among all classes but it has never once changed my opinion of them as the moaners don't represent them