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12/4/2015 5:13:46 PM
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[quote]So you're argument is they were only talking about exotics...
Im not sure if you recall but bungie went on and allowed us to upgrade legendaries when HOW dropped. Did you forget that part while you read through that update thinking they were only talking about exotics?[/quote]
Where in that quote do they talk about HoW legendaries?
[b]That quote was from [u]before TDB[/u][/b].
Seriously?
Just because they let us upgrade legendaries in HoW doesn't mean some quote they made MONTHS BEFORE HoW somehow magically promises that the changes they make IN THE XPACK AFTER THAT ONE will last for the rest of the game.
[i]My point is this. The quote that people are spamming has nothing to do with the vanilla or TDB legendaries. [b]This is obvious from the context of the quote.[/b] Just because later on they allowed us to ascend legendaries, doesn't mean that a quote from months before applied to changes they made in a different expansion. [/i]
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They also go on to say they are discussing these issues internally. They were talking about our items as a whole and eventually decided that legendaries and exotics should be upgraded. That update only hurts your argument especially when you look further down the line in HOW.
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Edited by jay p: 12/4/2015 5:39:07 PM[quote]They also go on to say they are discussing these issues internally. They were talking about our items as a whole and eventually decided that legendaries and exotics should be upgraded. That update only hurts your argument especially when you look further down the line in HOW.[/quote] I don't know what to tell you bro. The quote people are pulling out and using is accompanied by statements that they are going to [b]release legendaries more powerful than the current ones. [/b] They clearly and unequivocally say they are going to give us legendaries that are stronger than the current ones. That the old legendaries will be weaker than the new ones. You can't really read that any other way than: the new legendaries will be stronger than the old ones.
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Edited by turbtators: 12/4/2015 5:43:54 PMTrue. They are speaking in regards to tdb progression. Now if you read below that you see the op's quote. And below that quote you will see that they are discussing ways to accommodate player progression in the future. Dont give people crap for not reading something fully when you're doing the same thing.
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I guess here's my point. You want to argue that destiny was not complete at release and had a poor story? I'm right there with you. You want to argue that the grimoire is a poor story telling mechanic and should be in game? I got you. [b]You want to argue that Bungie should allow us to use our favorite legendaries for as long as we want?[/b] There are good arguments to be made both ways, and while I don't agree, we can just agree to disagree without either of us being [u]wrong[/u]. However, if you want to pull that quote out of context and somehow argue that it's a promise by Bungie that you can use your fatebringer until the end of time, that's just wrong. And worse it's intellectually lazy and dishonest. Argue all you want that we should be able to ascend any gear we want. There are arguments to be made and no one can say that you're wrong. But that quote is being misused and it's silly.
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Edited by turbtators: 12/4/2015 6:07:51 PMHow is it being misused? I went through the process to get bad juju, invective, and all the other y1 exotics that had a bounty required to gain that weapon. I now have to purchase bad juju, and invective and relevel weapons I already had. That's the exact same thing people complained about in tdb. Yes, I would love to upgrade some of my old gear especially my armor. If they want to remove old legendary weapons and not just put forth the effort and nerf them accordingly to y2 then I'll accept that. But I definitely have an issue not being able to carry along armor that doesn't impact that game to a large effect like the weapons can.
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Edited by jay p: 12/4/2015 5:46:09 PM[quote]True. They are speaking in regards to tdb progression. Now if you read below that you see the op's quote. And below his post you will see that they are discussing ways to accommodate players in the future. Dont give people crap for not reading something fully when you're doing the same thing.[/quote] Yeah, they say they are discussing future ways. And they gave us etheric light which is used in the ascension node [u]which says in the description that it upgraded weapons to the year 1 maximum[/u]. No where did they ever promise you would be able to keep your legendary weapons forever. The quote is in reference to [b]exotics[/b]. Legendaries they gave us an upgrade path for year 1. That's it.
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Read the quote from the op thats the issue. If you make a statement essentially apologizing for a mistake you made in player progression and then go on to do the same thing you apologized for... People are going to make these post and rightfully so.
