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Edited by Vegalink:
12/2/2015 4:20:38 PM
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Defenders are effective, and I in no way am saying they should be more offensive at all. I'm saying they should be more defensive effective. Have a stronger defense. Melee supers entering the bubble is fine. The super is designed to accommodate melee specifically. And even if they keep the 2 shots to pop the bubble, that is fine. I was using that more as an example
If people are arguing to give GG all these buffs because sunbreaker does xyz, then that is indirectly saying that classes should be equal. So anyone making that arguement is, indirectly, arguing that classes should be equal. As equal as completely different supers can be at least.
My whole thing is if the classes generally fare equally in a game, in terms of wins and such, then they are relatively equal. I wouldn't say defenders need much of a buff, but saying a class like gunslinger or nightstalker (which other people, not specifically you, have claimed) needs one isn't looking at the big picture of all subclasses.
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Bungie signed me out when they were doing maintenance, so I didn't get a chance to respond to you. [quote]Defenders are effective, and I in no way am saying they should be more offensive at all. I'm saying they should be more defensive effective. Have a stronger defense. Melee supers entering the bubble is fine. The super is designed to accommodate melee specifically. And even if they keep the 2 shots to pop the bubble, that is fine. I was using that more as an example[/quote] I see your point. You might get your wish after all, they seem to be targeting all 3 titan classes in the upcoming patch. [quote]If people are arguing to give GG all these buffs because sunbreaker does xyz, then that is indirectly saying that classes should be equal. So anyone making that arguement is, indirectly, arguing that classes should be equal. As equal as completely different supers can be at least. [/quote] What I have to say regarding this is that people used to complain that gunslingers could run around with their super active, and how it's not fair yadayada (keyword fair they wanted something equal) , and how titans don't have any mobile super. This is probably were sunbreakers derived from. In any case they basically got double what gunslingers have plus additional. Their super last twice as long, they throw twice as many hammers than gg shots, they have more defense than gunslingers. They [b]heal[/b] on top of their defense, or they can have overshields [b]constantly[/b]. Do you see the point I'm making? So if left the same then gunslingers can't even compare, because sunbreakers tank gg, when hit by it all they have to do is throw another hammer, kill the gunslinger and heal from it. Not saying everything has to be balanced, like i said before each class has things that make them different be it a pro or con. However for gunslingers there's so many damn cons, this is why people are asking for a buff. We don't have to be the best but they could at least give us one or the other. Our super should last longer, or people shouldn't be able to tank our shots seeing how we only have 3. Can you believe they're some people going into crucible with nighthawk, just so they can 1 shot a super? That how ludicrous it is.
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I hear ya. Yeah i think sunbreakers are still gonna be pretty strong even after the nerf, but I do think that healing after kills is a bit extreme. Bladedancers heal too, but the difference is their attack is close range, except maybe arc blade somewhat, so they really need the heal. It is like the psycho from Borderlands 2. You gotta heal because you are gonna be taking more damage than everyone else due to your close range focus. It is pretty annoying to almost kill a sunbreaker, he kills someone else and heals, turns and wastes you too lol. But nothing is more satisying than shutting down sunbreakers with suppression grenades.
