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12/2/2015 3:33:24 AM
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If you want seven GG shots then you lose all neutral play perks. You also have to give up Keyhole and flame knives for a the 4th shot. You have to give up double knives and extra range for a perk that give the 5th shot. You have to give up combustion and GG charges faster for the 6th Shot. You have to use the Exotic for the 7th shot.
Now is it really worth it because you only have 26 seconds if you never fire a bullet. You have to spam shoot GG to use all 7 shots otherwise you don't get all 7 shots. Just like what happens with hammers.
You lose chunks of your your super per shot. Take to long to find people and you are in the same boat at Sunbreakers.
You're GG bullets now have a travel time if you want health regeneration. So no travel time = no health regeneration.
Since you're an agility class you only get a 35% damage reduction so it would be best to stack armor/agility build.
Does it really seem worth it? In my opinion I would take all the neutral game perks and keep the 4 shots that we get.
You don't get a more shot with Nighthawk helm no matter how you're perked.
PLEASE GROW UP BECAUSE TITANS/WARLOCKS GOT SHAT ON THE ENTIRE FIRST YEAR. THE SUNBREAKER IS FINALY A SLAYER SUPER FOR TITANS, WHILE HUNTERS HAVE 3 SLAYER SUPERS. WARLOCKS FINALLY HAVE ONE SLAYER SUPER.
I DON'T COUNT SUNSINGER AS A SLAYER SUPER BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE IS GRENADES AND MELEE.
SHADOWSHOT WITH QUIVER IS A SLAYER SUPER BECAUSE YOU CAN MOVE AROUND AND FIRE IT THREE TIMES. I'VE HAD MANY HUNTERS ARGUE THIS. IF YOUR NOT USING QUIVER THAT IS YOUR DECISION.
Sorry for all the caps but I'm tired of Hunters wanting to be the king of everything.
The Hunter class is fine how it is. They have a lot of neutral game perks on all there subclasses that help more then Warlocks and Titans get. All of their supers can get multiple kills in PvP and PvE. (Don't waste GG/Bladedancer on majors and you get your kills just fine.)
The only thing that needs changed is the damage reduction on Sunbreakers.
[b][i][u]I'D TAKE 4 GG SHOTS AND NEUTRAL GAME PERKS OVER THE 5 HAMMERS WITH ALMOST NO NEUTRAL GAME PERKS.[/u][/i][/b] The reason I said 5 hammers is because you usually have to chase your targets down. And don't get to actually throw all 7 hammers unless you just want to waste your super go no reason.
Why can't people actually think realistically because to get 7 hammers you lose health regeneration and bigger explosions. The tracking for the hammers usually don't actually track people. It's when Sunbreakers use bigger explosions it seems like the hammer actually lock on them to kill them.
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Titans actually have a lot of neutral game just nobody uses those perks
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This guy mains 2 Titans. He has no skill so there for has no say. He had trouble taking down bladedancers and GG in year one because you lacked the skill to do so. You are the retard that ALWAYS runs away from a super instead of knowing when it's the right time to get that one dome shot to the head to save your team from getting picked off one by one. You sir can shut the fück up and learn to be able to take down supers that aren't OP
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Edited by OrangeRocks1986: 12/2/2015 8:31:30 AMYup check[u]ed[/u] you're grimore and [u]wasn't[/u] surprised. 16k kills as a Hunter in crucible. 13k kills as a Warlock. 2200 kills as a Titan. I bet most of those kills are only since Sunbreaker was released. [b]Would I be correct to assume that?[/b] Edit is underlined.
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Nope year one player. I didn't play crucible til the HoW
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You're funny. I have never had a problem with Bladedancers. I either out ran them or smashed them to death. So much hate mail from Bladedancers who chased me there entire super. Or the hate mail from using smash to shut them down. Messages like stop wasting your super on one person. GG was and always will be easy to shutdown. Either one grenade or one spiner shot. Please don't open your mouth when you don't know. The two Titans argument is invalid. One was just recently created for just farming gear from the raid. The other has 11k kills as a Titan. [b]I bet your Titan comes nowhere close to that number.[/b] Don't you see my Hunter? I don't play crucible on my Hunter because it's to easy. I have only been trying for finishing the crucible grimore part. Once that's done my Hunter will never touch the crucible again. Please don't make a fool of yourself.
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If you dont think that voidwalker ram wasn't a slayer super in HoW you're an idiot.
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A ram Voidwalker has a single use super. It's not classified as a slayer super. No matter how many times you get your super. Please learn the super classifications before saying stuff like this. You're talking about neutral game. This has nothing to do with topic at hand.
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The fact that I can get slayer and reaper medals off of a single nova is classification enough for me. Its all about timing. If you cant time your super then you don't need it anyway. The same applies to shadowshot. Quiver is stupid. Yes three kills is three kills. But tethering a group is far more satisfactory. Blood bound and the longer lasting void grenade and smoke? Theyre dead. All of them. Timing is what makes a super giod. Not how many it can kill. Any super can slay if you know how to use it. As such ive seen this done on sll classes, other than wod.
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[quote]PLEASE GROW UP BECAUSE TITANS/WARLOCKS GOT SHAT ON THE ENTIRE FIRST YEAR. THE SUNBREAKER IS FINALY A SLAYER SUPER FOR TITANS, WHILE HUNTERS HAVE 3 SLAYER SUPERS. WARLOCKS FINALLY HAVE ONE SLAYER SUPER.[/quote] This is the dumbest shit I've read. I don't know whats worse. "Hunters have 3 slayers supers" or "warlocks got shat on all of year 1."
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Really you want me to go there? Titans had one time use supers the entire first year. Voidwalker is a one time use super therefore not a slayer super. You can get lucky and fools group up so you can get multiple kills, same thing for Strikers. Sunsingers aren't really a slayer super because you're using your abilities to get kills or you're using your own weapons. Just because they charge faster and might get 2 or 3 kills unless you're playing against bad players. It's no different then a Titan sitting in his bubble wasting idiots who charge in to die. Meanwhile the entire first year Hunters could wipe teams. GG almost guaranteed 3+ kills. Not including all the neutral game buffs they get. Bladedancers could wipe a team and people spawn and wipe them again. Don't forget QuickDraw/blink combo. The guardians abused the shit out of it to where Bungie nerfed Bladedancers 3 time in Year one. [b]MORE NERFS THEN ANY OTHER CLASS[/b] Bungie has stated that when things get abused to a point expect heavy NERFS.
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Edited by lIIume: 12/2/2015 8:39:19 AM*ignores all the bullshit you just wrote because you didnt read* look at what I quoted and try again. From your previous comments I can honestly tell that you know nothing about PvP. Your claim that warlocks were not the most competitive class with hunters last year shows that. [b]The text below is basically what I should've said in my first comment towards you.[/b] Sunsinger & Arcblade were by far the best two subclasses last year. Gunslinger isn't even a good subclass, it has a good super and thats it. Do not sit here and tell people that sunsinger with those burning nades, ram, and self res were not amazing in Trials AND sweats. Please refrain from acting like you know everything when you don't. Bungie doesnt nerf things based off of the forums. Otherwise, thorn and tlw wouldve been nerfed a lot quicker. It took them 6 months to fix all of the insane weapons even with data showing that both were broken. Edit: oh look, an amazing 400k medal score. Youve hardly played PvP yet you're writing essays on here like you're some veteran lmfao
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So what if I don't have a 4.9 million medal score like you have. So what if I don't waste all my free time playing PvP. So what if I'm not as good in PvP as your stats are. I'm not that good at PvP nor will I ever claim that. I don't care enough. I play PvP for fun. I played as a Titan throughout the entire first year in crucible. I have used Hunters and Warlocks in the crucible but they aren't for me. I feel like playing a Hunter in PvP is easy mode and to boring for my tastes. I also can't stand the Warlocks jump style. Hunters were top in crucible the entirety of Year one correct? Yes they were. Thus Hunters were the most heavily nerfed out for the 3 classes. Warlocks came in second throughout the entire first year, correct? Yes they were and they got nerfed accordingly with patch 2.0. Titans were considered a unpredictable liability in the entirety of year one. If you were good with a Titan then you were fine. But the majority of the players sucked when playing a Titan. With patch 2.0 they got some NERFS and buffs to attempt to balance. I don't see why you're trying to attack me when all that I'm posting has been proven by a year with million of stats that prove it. But I guess you'll just ignore this.
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Warlocks got shat on until ToO... Damn sunbros
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I know they did. At least Viodwalker had blink to help with the neutral game.
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