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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • Got a 313 helmet. Suck it ToO DB. I didn't just sit around either.

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  • I do not understand why people have a problem with multiple paths to raise one's light level. Just to point out, in order to get those rewards, one must reach level 5 on at least one char. That takes a couple/few days ( some if they play all day can in one, but thats not realistic for most ), and you get one...ONE...item that level. The hm raid gives one multiple items above level 310 in far less time. Both are random, both must have time committed to them. Its actually harder to get ib rewards and more time consuming than the other game modes that reward high level gear. I just dont get why thats a problem. It makes it more fun for everyone and more people have higher levels to, in turn, enjoy more of the higher level content. Is it simply that some just dont want others to achieve what they have achieved. Seriously, i just dont understand the problem with multiple paths to higher light.

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    • I have full harrowed gear... Am I allowed to use my iron banner gear? That looks way cooler and have the perks I actually need?

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      • Hey everybody! A PHONY lives here! A great big PHONY!

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      • I agreed until i saw that you numbered all your edits like a total douche. Now i disagree just to spite you :D

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      • Edited by swarlson: 11/24/2015 1:59:59 PM
        The chances of getting 310+ is slim. So it doesn't matter

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      • Please update this post with at least 4 more edits.

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      • I refuse to post a meaningful comment until the OP makes one more Edit

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        • Don't you have to be rank 5 and then continue to play after to get 310+ gear? Hardly "doing nothing".

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        • Iron Banner drops 320 gear so solo players have a chance to obtain max level. It's the only activity with 320 rewards that doesn't require a fireteam. You may enjoy it, but I find LFG to be detestable. 80% of the people on the LFG are liars who waste your time. I completed hard mode in a marathon LFG the day it came out. I must have played with 200 people before finding five others who were competent. I haven't used LFG since. -blam!- that

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        • With a 14,000 medal score, no wonder you're completely ignorant. Iron banner has always given gear that could get you to max light once fully upgraded. That's not changing. Case closed.

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          • Ummmm IB has always SOLD maximum light gear until last month, no RNG required.

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            • Like it or not Bungie has decided that this is a pvp game, pve players have nothing to look forward to now. Raid will fill with bugs that will be fixed 3 DLC from now, nightfall will be as meaningless as the heroics, and actually buying anything at a vendor is a waste of time. People used to say you have to play both sides, which is bullshit also no other mmo forces you to play pve and pvp, you choose where you want to play. But now Destiny is pvp only, not a single pve update in 2 months, ridiculously better rewards in pvp just for dancing, and a dev team that doesn't even play pve, much less care about it. It's funny how some defend pvp by saying it's harder than pve, but in pvp you don't even have to win a match or be top score, while in pve if you don't finish anything you get nothing, and even so the best you can get is a 310 drop from the nightfall, while IB saw drops of up to 320 from losing matches, and the rewarded where usually the lowest on the board.

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            • Edited by SilentFight2411: 11/24/2015 1:40:07 PM
              OP, Elitist Try-hard confirmed

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              • Just cuz you suck ass at crucible, doesn't mean it's a sham

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              • I wonder is he hits 20 edits before the weeks over

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              • Someone always manages to find a way to complain about what other people are getting, and how they haven't earnt it, but they have earnt all their loot ....... in a game run on random rewards.... Last year it was xur, but he's out of the equation now that most items can't be bought, so on to the next thing to complain about....... Though on the flip side, people also complain about getting no loot.... which reminds me of a previous post, where no matter what bungie does, people will moan about it

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                • You are a complete idiot

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                • Getting rank 5, or whatever is needed for armor, isn't even hard. I did it on my warlock and hunter within the last three days. Also agree with you on Fallout.

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                • Bungie is trash. Garbage. Nothing. Players are everything in this game(in my humble opinion). I wish them luck in extorting any further currency. And they can suck the Destiny 2 price straight from my d**k. And i only spoke from MY perspective. Good luck.

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                • Thats a pretty good point. IB is no challenge. Just play and you'll get level 5 whether you are the Crucible King or just afk for most matches. 320 gear for that kind of "effort" is fairly shitty. Scrubs need a way to raise their LL too, i suppose.

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                • Trials gear should be on par with it at least. Saw a lot more 310 plus IB stuff than I have in all of trials in several weeks

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                • Iron banner is finally the way it should be,it's a special event that comes around 1 time a month, in my opinion it should have high level gear that better or just as good as the rest. This is the way iron banner should be. They did well over the past year finally making it worth while

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                • Iron banner is finally the way it should be,it's a special event that comes around 1 time a month, in my opinion it should have high level gear that better or just as good as the rest. This is the way iron banner should be. They did well over the past year finally making it worth while

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                • U mad cause no1 cares for your shitty HM gear which looks worse anyway

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                • The loot along with the switch to Clash made this Iron Banner the best to date. Why get butthurt over other players having fun and getting good loot? This type of mentality is why the forums are toxic. Good job with Iron Banner loot Bungie, keep up the good work!

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