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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • I quit destiny about 3 weeks ago and won't be back, but it's this very reason all of the grinding that sucks. I bet in 6 months I could come back and get the same gear as you after you wasted 6 months of addictive grinding. Bungie uses this game like a casino, instead of making it fun and interesting. I have been playing Battlefront and it's so much better. I can match make into any game, there are no carrots all weapons are properly balanced. Mostly because DICE is good at weapon balancing. I can switch from 1st to third person on the run. Has been so much more fun and thank god for Battlefront, Mad Max and the Witcher for breaking my day 1 destiny addiction

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  • Trials isn't fair either. All you have to do is complete 10 matches to get gold tier.

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  • I don't totally disagree, but I also don't think it's that big of a deal. IB comes once every 5 weeks or so, making it a long grind to get a full set of max gear purely through IB. A player would still need to do at least portions of the hard mode Kings Fall, and at least play Trials for the bounties to see if they can get 310+ gear. Based purely on my own experience of getting two characters up to rank 5, the 315+ drops seemed pretty rare. One guy in my clan managed to get two 320 items, which will only serve to make the hard raid a little easier for him. I get where you're coming from, I just don't think it matters all that much. The entire loot system is a bit of a mess anyway, so tossing in some decent gear as a reward for playing IB all week doesn't sound like such a bad deal to me.

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  • Bungie did this because me unlike you doesn't always have a raid team and when I get on I would prefer to do a raid but I'm not allowed in because of light level so I think iron banner was a wonderful idea to get people higher light

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  • Took me a whole 14 iron banner games to reach rank 5 over the week. Gotta 310 ghost and 312 sniper from rank 5. Highest drop was 295 it's hit or miss

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  • It used to be "It's pointless. 280-300 light gear." And now it's "310+ Light? It's too much because anyone can get it!"

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    • I got 320 boots for going negative. I ain't even mad bro. Are you?

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    • I didn't get any 300+ gear until rank five.

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    • I have to agree. 310 max from IB. I would be OK with IB dropping 310-320 gear if the normal raid did also.

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      • Haters gone hate

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        Entire post made pointless because you used a non word (terribad).

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      • Iron Banner is only easy if you win really. You can clear 1 of the weekly bounties without winning. I enjoyed it as a nice change of pace from pve all the time. Plus Colovance's Duty is amazing.

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      • You mad?

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        • Edited by Zargon: 11/24/2015 2:22:22 PM
          OP is a huge salty fgt, confirmed.

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        • Sssshhhhh

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        • How does other people having fun and getting nice gear in a game they enjoy playing affect your life? Why does it annoy you, in what way does it diminish you? In order to help you better, these are the things we need to understand.

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        • Because its a game and progression is what motivates people to participate in things. Not even sure why you would care.. I hope others get good gear it doesn't bother me at all.

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        • I think it's great. Got me playing again. Now I can start upgrading my weapons and gear. In short great move. You are completely wrong OP, a lot of people are playing again because of it.

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        • Do you even realize that other guardians reaching high levels helps everyone else with what thier doing. Were supposed to be a team while playing most activities that require high light. I'm sure you're also the person that complains when someone isn't high enough light for what your doing. You dont like pvp, others dont like raiding. So who has the roght to be high light?.... The answer is....everybody.

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        • I would love to do a hard raid sometime. But apparently you have to be ABOVE 310 for people to want to try it with you. I'm a day one player ffs. I haven't been able to give hard mode a proper attempt because either I can't find a game outright or there are people hilariously under level (290 ish) wanting to be carried.

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        • 8 edits of the saltiest salts

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          • Edited by Kanee: 11/24/2015 2:10:33 PM
            Good luck fighting these kids.....BTW get something in your life that means more to you, then you won't put so much into a GAME! it's all for fun....remember that.

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            • Again with this. This happenes in year one when IB dropped raid lvl gear. Does the complaining ever stop? Just go play a different game.

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            • You said it yourself anyone can get it so whats the problem? You also said that that it's an mmo and you shouldn't get end game gear solo.....wrong. You shouldn't get end game PVE gear solo. Most mmo games offer end game pvp and pve sets thats the appeal to people that don't raid. Pvp sets offer pvp perks and guess what pve sets offer? Also if you play PVE then someone having higher light than you doesn't effect you in any way.....Having higher light in trials and iron banner does. I think drops should be better in raids for sure but ppl need to stop worrying about other peoples light and focus on there own.

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            • Not everyone can raid for hours continously. LFG is not a problem solver as half the time the groups dont get going. Iron banner you can pick up and play for an hour at a time and progress over the week. Why do you even care if people get up to 320 gear? Your time spent in raids is irrelevant to anyone but yourself.

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            • Got a 313 helmet. Suck it ToO DB. I didn't just sit around either.

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