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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • It's a kick in the gut to those who worked at beating Hard Mode or Have run trials flawless....not everyone is at the same skill level.....it's that sad idea that everyone deserves an award......which is partly why people now a days don't even work for anything anymore.....

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    • Edited by TrikMoneySchmity: 11/24/2015 4:45:36 PM
      Well it's always been like this so what's the point of worrying about it and making so many edits... This same complaint every time.... Youre a fake lvl 32... Blah blah blah

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    • Edited by Freak: 11/24/2015 4:31:39 PM
      Did IB on all 3 Chars got a 312 helm and shottie= junk Went flawless got a 315 Sum with Army of one= junk. Completed HM on all 3 chars since its release! No helm over 310= junk. Fix your shit Destiny.... Can you not make the loot progressive to what we have equipped? This is beyond retarded.

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      • When there are more edits in the post than the God damn post itself you're doing something wrong. The community is disagreeing with you yet you sit there and type garbage after garbage. Please tell me how LIGHT level affects your status symbol as a trials player? That's what different gear is there for dummy. To someone grinding IB they actually spent more time than a flawless run. The majority of this community is a shit infested puke sauce.

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      • Well, this is Destiny. Nothing balanced or logical in here...

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      • You know, while we're at it, it pisses me off that other people playing Super Mario get fire power from that easy to reach coin box, when I got mine from the box above it. It took a whole extra jump for Pete's sake! I mean, come on Nintendo, I earned that fire, the other people didn't!

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        • You used the word "reksauce" just stop and leave.

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        • Shut up meg and gid gut

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        • •why are you even worried about what i have in my cophers •other that this post and me telling you i am 311 with 3 or 4 raid completions 1 hard attempt gaining most of my goodies from the crucible, it doesn't matter what level i am •i put plenty of time into the game and feel that i have been rewarded fairly •if you would like good gear that can be of assistance to you, run the iron banner next go round so you can easily clean up and make you characters better

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        • Edited by Brick: 11/24/2015 4:22:42 PM
          316 Titan helm 319 Hunter helm 319 shotgun 319 ghost Unlike you, I like to be somewhat well rounded. It looks to me like you don't even play pvp, so what does it matter?

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        • I got a 310 artifact last night, other than a 300 chest piece I have gotten jack shyte from Iron Banana. But admittedly I have just started playing the pvp side of this game so I'm not too good yet.

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        • 1. It doesn't affect you in any manner. 2. Even with LFG HM is still hard. 3. The time you need to devote to complete HM is alot more than IB, I hop on do a few matches go off. 4. Shut up meg!

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        • Why does it bother you if people get to a higher light level... It really doesn't affect how you play the game in any way. Just relax and have fun dude... It's a game

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        • 1. Why do you even care? It's just pixels on a screen bro 2. I agree with the time thing. As for you saying spending hours on IB, on the second to last day, the rep buff was enough to get me to 5 in 53 minutes. That's not very long and probably a lot faster than a group of ransoms can do a hard mode

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        • Who cares how people get light level? Find what's fun for you and do that. Or don't. Why does everyone have to be in everyone else's business all the time? This 'social' side of games sucks!

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        • Edited by joey big guns: 11/24/2015 2:58:42 PM
          What a scrub. I don't care what your light level is or how many raids you've completed you are a chump and a triple dipping chump at that. It's been a year, it's ok to try another class. You are crying about a game mode you don't even participate in. You have no place to complain. The drops in IB weren't guaranteed, they were random. You have a chance, a [b]CHANCE[/b], at high level gear. You just didn't need to be 310+ w/ ToM, black spindle, and 20 hard raid completions. It was open to everyone. Maybe not all solo players are as blessed to have dedicated friends who play video games on a daily basis. Maybe some solo players are constantly rejected by groups off LFG or have had terrible experience being kicked by random teams at a real crappy moment because their buddy just got online and even though the boss is almost dead, he needs the clear on it.

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        • I'm not even sure why you care that other people get good gear. Honestly, why does it bother you? I'd partly understand it if you're a pvp player and you had to come up against them, but you're not. In fact, you're a pve player and as such surely you'd want everyone to be high light and have good gear so when you're with them they perform better? I really genuinely, truly do not understand this post at all, it makes no sense.

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          • You used the word "literally" incorrectly. ----Hard Light 4 Life ----------------------

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            • Cool story...why the -blam!- do you care? It does not affect you negatively at all.

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            • Edited by Slackerr_26: 11/24/2015 4:00:45 PM
              People complain when there were no rewards handed out. People complain when they hand out awesome rewards now. Welcome to the Destiny forums In regards to edit 7 (chill on the edits, geez), good luck getting past ranks 2 and 3 by doing nothing and turning in no bounties. You would need a lot of wins while putting your team at a disadvantage from the start. The drop rate at rank 2 is by no means good, and even if you do manage to pass 3, there still isn't a guarantee of that level gear. My drop at rank 3 was only 285 while I was 306. My best gear (319 ghost and 319 fusion) were from the rank 5 packages or as a post-game reward after hitting rank 5

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            • You need to actually complete a bounty with kills and perform better than average to get 310+ gear, ghosts being the only exception.

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              • Since Day 1, IB has ALWAYS given PVP people a chance to get raid quality gear. In Y1, the first IB's offered regular vendor light level gear. Then each month, one additional piece of armor was made available and/or was made raid level, until a complete raid level set could be obtained. This is no different.

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              • I was going to answer your points individually, but then realized that would be a collassal waste of my time and energy. I'll just say this. 1. The game is bigger than you. 2. If the game is going to survive 10 years, it has to meet the needs of all of its players. Not just the tiny fraction that have hours and hours each day to spend in front of a console. 3. That means that Bungie needs to provide MULTIPLE routes to level cap. Not just raids or Trials. Some of us have lives and respoinsibilities in the real world, and can't spend hours per day trying to get people to respond to LFG sites.....or have the twitch speed to out-gun angry 15 year olds who play all-day, everyday in PvP. If Bungie stops meeting OUR needs,-----just so you can feel special----we simply stop playing Destiny. Or worse, we leave and start playing other games.

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              • Im sure it might but I've only gotten one drop above 300 and that was my ghost

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              • Your stupid

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              • I got a 320 cloak ;)

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