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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • Trials are a joke. I myself have way More fun playing Banner

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  • Sour grapes that other players can get quality light gear? PvE isn't the only part of the game...

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  • 319 Warlock Bond.

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  • Because you can just as easily be CARRIED through any raid and do little to nothing. You can be Carried to the light house and do nothing. There is no way to tell if someone has skill by gear in this game sorry if it melts your snow flake but it is the simple truth.

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  • It compensates for the horrendous drop rates in the raid and Trials.

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  • Op out here with a 14k medal score talking about PvP lol just stop

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  • As a pve end game player it does bother me that the efforts of grinding light to beat oryx (who isnt guaranted to drop 310 plus items and takes skill and communication) is made obselete by time spent in cruicible to aquire rank 5 ib packs (guaranted to drop 1 310plus item). I can also see why the too players would be annoyed as well. BUT.... At least ib brings the dangling carrot grind back to the game. Keep in mind i am still bloody salty that oryx wont drop me a hm helmet and the 3 character grind for rank 5 packs led me to 311 and 312 scout (crap rolls) 316 cloak (lower than what i have). NO F##KIN HELMET STILL! Also played 20 plus games after rank 5 to get a ghost better than 314 and nothing not 1. RNG hates me.

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  • I'm fine with Iron Banner awarding 310+ gear. There is still some level of skill involved, and the time investment is much higher than any raid.

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  • So your butt hurt that not everyone like to raid or doesnt have enough time

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    • I'll translate for OP. "Me mum said I was a special Sony Pony snowflake but mean ol' Bungie is giving away my 1337z0rz TOO armour."

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      • bungie will do anything to keep bad players in the mix with good players. it started with making shotguns like felwinter's. then it went further into nefing hand cannons and making noob weapons like pulse and auto rifles strong. simultaneously they made three of the most noob supers ever created lol. they will do ANYTHING

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      • Armor only drops up to 310 as end game rewards, with ghosts going up to 320. The 310-320 armor and weapons only come from the rank 5 package. I actually really like this system, and this is coming from someone who always believes in raid gear. King's Fall loot system is such an atrocity that this Iron Banner system is very much welcomed.

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        • All I heard is Wahhh, wah, wahhhh😢😢 Lol, why do you care.

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        • Not everyone can have enough skill or scrubby campiness to do trials and should be able to get gear from IB that is on par.

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        • What's that? Couldn't hear you over my 320 Nirwen's Mercy [spoiler]with admittedly disgusting perks[/spoiler]

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          • so you're crying because you're getting good gear? okay

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          • Edited by PMJ1234567890: 11/24/2015 2:26:53 AM
            After getting all my guys to level 5 I decided to shit around as Crota to do the sword kills. At the end of the match I was in dead last with 4 kills and a kd of like 0.2 and I got a 319 ghost. Everyone else got shit. (We won) It was beautiful. No hate mail but no doubt they were mad bro

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            • Three pieces of gear 310+ a month is completely reasonable for IB.

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            • Well I got an ib helm at 319 on my hunter

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            • Dude.... Go outside

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              • Iron banner has always been a place for the non-raid oriented player to get gear to max levels. Quit ur Bitchin..

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                • I think up to 310 gear is reasonable. Maybe even 315. But 320? Seriously?

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                • Edited by Sanctus Michael: 11/24/2015 1:21:47 AM
                  This is available 1 week a month. The others you can do weekly. So please. Sorry, but if a player doesn't like raids or ToO, they shouldn't be forced to play that crap if they don't want to. Look at it from a buiness stand point. The best business in the word is one with 100% satisfied customers. If a player doesn't like raids or ToO, then once they hit mid to upper 290s, why not abandon destiny for a game they can progress in? This isn't want a company wants, to alienate customers. But I get your point, ToO and raids are harder. Thus, IB is available one freaking week A MONTH. That's it. After that, progression stops unless raids and ToO is played. If a person doesn't like either, those that do like them can continue to progress whIle those that don't like those activities can't. It's an acceptable compromise.

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                • Just got a 318 ghost

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                • It's once a mont, one package per character that rewards an item between 310-320 light, and it requires grinding. I really don't have a problem with this.

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                • Why is it a sham? Like who cares, kinderguardians need a definite way to get higher level gear, or their gear wouldn't drop as well. Don't whine about a gift to the players, especially when so many people are asking for a more concrete way of leveling their light. What's wrong with destiny giving a guaranteed drop every once in a while? Do you praise RnG that much?

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