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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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    The problem is that trials doesn't drop 311+ legendaries outside of the 1 primary from the lighthouse.

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  • I'm rank 5 on two characters and I've yet to obtain a weapon above 285 or armor above 304. Its [b][i]supposed[/i][/b] to give a higher chance at 310-320 gear at rank 5. But, either Bungie is lying or my RNG is just poop.

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    • Haha The 320 stag helm i got from a SILVER too bounty says different [spoiler]infused it into my orb health raid helm[/spoiler] [spoiler]really I think youre just jealous because the ib gear looks better [/spoiler]

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    • You do realize this is an event that happens once every other month, right? At least there's a chance outside of the crappy raid loot drops to boost light levels with IB.

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    • Just like you don't play PVP, some of us don't play PVE. You mad we'll eventually hit the same light level without having to grind the same boring ass raid over and over?

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    • People complain when the rewards are shit. Now they complain that the rewards are good. For -blam!-s sake. Anyway. If trials gear does not get bumped up to 310-320 range it would be because it is every week. Iron Banner is once a month. So when it comes around it should count for something. Yes you can get 310+ from hard mode raid, and that is every week too. But you can also get absolutely nothing from it one week. Like last week, I only did it on 2 characters, but got nothing that was better than what I already had, and only on harrowed piece.

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      • IB rewards: 1. Ghosts can drop 310-320 2. Chest, arms, hand cannon and machine gun can drop up to 310 3. Rank 5 packages give one item between 310 and 320. So you can get a max of three items over 310, not counting RNG ghosts. I don't think that's unreasonable.

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      • Completely agree it is entirely too easy to get max lvl. I played earlier and went from rank 0 to rank 5 in just a few hours. I didn't get anything over 310 but I got 2 that were at 310( rare artifact and sniper)

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      • Oh come on! You get 1 chance at 310 + gear on the lvl 5 package.

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      • couldnt disagree more... really enjoyed IB this time around, finally got me into PVP and breathed some new life into the game, rewards were great and felt justified in the grind.

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      • I have two characters to rank five in Iron Banner with three pieces of 310 fear to show for it. Two ghosts and one helmet. It's still RNG so calm your nuts.

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      • Yeah, no. Not only that, but HELLS, NO. As a primarily solo player (timing. Due to work/parenting, I'm usually only on when my friends aren't) getting endgame level gear, or getting to even get into the content is usually next to impossible for me. ( yep, still no raid completions yet) IB has been the one way for me to get my hands on gear in the hopes that one day I'll actually have free time when the rest of my fireteam does. So, take the attitude and shove it. Or come meet us all in the arena of GLORIOUS COMBAT UNDER THE IRON BANNER and put your money where your mouth is.

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      • Why do you care? Especially if you don't play pvp? How does it affect your gameplay?

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      • To get the chance at that 310 plus gear you have to run 40+ matches. It's a nice reward.

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      • I sat an did nothing for at least an hour in Iron Banner and got nothing. I randomly shot every now and again to stay active. Zero kills ever game.

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      • Up yours, you dont make sense.

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      • Pretty stoked about my 315 nirwens mercy from rank 5 package

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      • If you played the last iron banner you'll know the rewards where complete shit, so making it actually worth playing this time with 320 drops was the right thing to do, like me I'm not good at Trails so having an event I can actually get rewarda that will help me get light up, I feel no shame in that,

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      • I figure its just one more free raid drop for each character 1 time per month.

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      • Edited by EzE_408: 11/24/2015 3:10:00 AM
        Initially I was a bit upset especially people getting 320 helmets. However, it's not like you can get more than a few pieces. It's the slowly easing of content, similar to how MMOs handle gear. Not too bad really. Besides Nightfall is trash. Hope this ends all the bitching about Kingsfall drops though. That cry train needs to stop especially if they are handing out 320 gear in IB.

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      • 317 nerwyns glass half full and life support

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      • I'm enjoying my 320 nirwens mercy. Pewpewpew

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      • People get carried through Trials, so I don't see an issue with Iron Banner dropping high level gear. It's once a month. Trials is every weekend.

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      • Shush your face plese

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      • Shut up. You butthurt, salty, cringe-worthy cur. It. Is. A. Phucking. Game. This is part of the bs ruining this game. Little kuntz like you whining about it being unfair that others get shit. Figures that all you snowflakes really show up in winter. Smmfh

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        • Trials are a joke. I myself have way More fun playing Banner

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