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Edited by MrBelugaBiscuit: 11/24/2015 10:26:45 PM
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Iron Banner dropping 310-320 gear is a sham.

I had no problem with trials gear being 310+. That mode is hard. But Iron Banner? You could literally just sit and do nothing and get the same light level as trials/HM raid... While Nightfall still gives you nothing worth while. Edit: It should award 310 maximum light due to the fact it is not the hardest PVP content. Just like NM raid gear is max 310 light. Trials can be 320 and hard raid 320. It just does not make sense to have the lower skill challenge offer similar rewards. Edit #2: I don't play PVP. I have never once run trials. I just think that IB being on pa with easy mode Kings Fall should drop up to 310 light gear. Why is that unreasonable? Edit #3: I see a lot of people saying that they either can't do the HM raid or trials. What reason do you have to hit 320 light anyway? I am also in agreement that last Iron Banner loot was terribad. But why not 310 light gear? Puts it on par with the difficulty of the nightfall. 320 is too high for the lack of difficulty. Cheapens trials/HM. Edit #4: To those saying they don't have time to raid, then spend hours upon hours in Iron Banner... Really? Also to those saying their friends are not on to raid... destinylfg.net, destinylfg.com, the100io, redditlfg, the app you are even posting on has an lfg! No excuse really. Edit #5: I see a lot of complaining from people who either get reksauced in trials, or are either too incompetent to complete Kings Fall HM (which is easy btw). I guess you can have your super duper easy mode for 310+ gear. Can't wait to have you guys in the raid being herp derps. It will be like the good old VoG days with level 30's in Iron Banner gear, dying every 30 seconds all over again... Edit #6: For all you players saying... "but how can I get max level solo? I guess us solo players get pooped on!" You. Bought. An. MMO. Game. I have yet to play any game that is considered an MMO, and get the best gear/levels soloing. Never even heard of such a thing... You should not be allowed to get end game gear solo. Period. Don't like that? Get Fallout. It's a great game for solo players (great game over all). Edit #7: To prove my point on why this is a sham. The next time iron banner is up. I will go in and kill nobody, I will shoot walls and generally be an even worse PVP player than I normally am. Guess what I might get? A roll on possible 320 loot from contributing zero. Hell it should be a negative sum because I will be dragging my team down. I will have the exact same chance as the top guys for the best loot in the game. See the failed logic in this? If I hop in a trials match and do that, it's a guaranteed loss. If I go into the raid and punch the raid mobs and die, it's a guaranteed fail. This is the equivalent of putting a chance on patrol bounties to drop 310+ loot or random chests in patrol doing the same, or regular crucible for that matter! Edit #8: Multiple people have stated seeing people who are afk. That means the controller was not even in the players hand... getting trials/HM equivalent gear. One guy went 0-14 and got a 320 ghost. This is like a welfare system. Do nothing, ???, Profit. Final edit: I guess what I am concerned about is hard to voice. So I will tell a short story... I remember in my youth one of my favorite games was Mechwarrior on Snes I played it non stop for weeks. That game was an absolute grind to get all the best gear, it was maddening sometimes with the incremental increases. So I borrowed my friends Game Genie and was able to buy everything I needed or wanted in the game! I wrecked everything and quit out of boredom within a week of everything being handed to me. Never to pick it up again. When everything is handed to you, and everyone is given an easy route it cheapens the experience. I have always sought out challenges in life because the rewards usually justified the effort. Does nobody like a challenge anymore? There is a reason why people in life work hard to achieve something worthwhile. Give everyone the same thing and effort dies. Innovation dies. I have worked my ass off irl to buy a new car, have a nice home to live in, being able to pay all my bills, and put something back for retirement. Think I would work my 50+ hours a week in a stressful environment every week, if the guy/girl who stocks shelves at the local store got the same rewards? This problem exists with the mentality that "I am alive, therfore I deserve" "I may not have the time nor skill, but I want it" Trophies being handed out for "participation" will set you on a path for disaster in life.

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  • Iron banner is like the easy mode PvP raid and trials is like the hard mode.

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  • For those that don't raid they would disagree. IB dropping good high level gear is fine. The game mode comes round once a month so it's quite slow. Plus not sure how reliable it was to get weapons over 300 light.

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  • I liked how iron banner was. Bungie can never win with some people. The gear sucks, the gear is too good. No wonder why they can't fix things. You can't make up your mind. I have posted asking Bungie to fix things. So I don't think Bungie is perfect. This was the best drop system so far in my opinion. I never thought I would see a post saying the loot drops where just too good. Mind blown.

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    • People get mad when it drops at 290, people get mad when it drop at 310. Jeez I bet Bungie looks at these forums and think people are nothing but whiny bitches

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    • Edited by Sukkon, Kell of Deez: 11/25/2015 10:40:08 PM
      Stop complaining. You really look like an idiot complaining about stuff like that. "Oh poor me! Had to do the raid to get my gear but these guys have to play crucible for the chance at 1 piece of 310+ gear at rank 5 once a month." Cry me a f***ing river. Shut the hell up and just play the God damn game.

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    • Before Iron Banner I had pretty much quit Destiny after nearly 2 years playing, now I'm back playing and upgrading again. I'd say Bungie made a very good decision with this IB.

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    • Shit mate nice doctoral thesis there. Like how long have you spent on this in total? What's the word count? [spoiler]It's really long, is my point. Like too long. Like get a life mate[/spoiler]

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    • Edited by plague75: 11/25/2015 10:39:26 PM
      In honesty Ive not done the raid yet and did iron banner. I can make 307 light now. My reason is that raid takes time to learn and I've already got fair knowledge about pvp. That and time. Not that I didn't grind IB because I did but the fundamental difference is that I could pop in and out of pvp. That's something a raid doesn't allow for. To prepare for raid I need to be able to sit down unmoving for at least 2 hours n that's what puts me off raid. IB was perfect if my diner was ready of I went ate my scran and returned to IB. My biggest problem with raid is that I have to be committed to it. I can't just up and leave when I get visitors or food. I don't want to let my team mates down by leaving a hole in there fire team. So I'll hold out n get as high as I can so raiding check point at a time won't be so time consuming. Thanks to iron banner this is a goal I can reach.. I'd like to add that I do enjoy a challenge. I will be doing raids but on my own terms and my own fire team. The challenge of the game doesn't put me off, I'm highly competitive. But "and im not wining, as it is what it is." To grind like I did for bungie to make all my gear irrelevant makes me not so keen to bother. And I'm not alone.

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    • Did you know the raid year looks terrible? I'm glad they offered an alternative

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    • Well maybe you should just have grinded some iron banner. It certainly got my light level up a bit.

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    • Oh god another person on the internet obsessed with participation trophies. It's like an epidemic. Sorry but shooting a gigantic boss from an invincibility bubble and claiming it took more work than playing some pvp matches is silly.

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      • Whaaaaaaa. Who cares?

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      • Talking about iron banner and trials, yet edit two says you dont play pvp... If you are going to try and form a opinion on something, then have the decency to actually play that content. As for you doing nothing next iron banner, thats been done over and over and complained about every once in awhile. I do guarantee you that you will get reported for inactivity, and eventually delt with by bungie so enjoy that ;)

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      • Edited by SolarCerberuS: 11/25/2015 12:13:08 AM
        Lower skill? so a raid that runs on AI is harder than playing any form of PVP? sorry but no requires more teamwork yes but once a strategy has been made it will work every time against the AI. Pvp on the other hand is adaptive and everygame is different. Rewards are random in each case so who are you to judge who deserves what? some people cannot raid myself included due to time constraints I am lucky to be able to play for 30 minutes uninterrupted so Endgame Pvp is ideal for me to get to endgame level gear.

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      • It's another end game event so it should drop high level gear.

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      • Iron Banner has always had max level gear after week 1 of a new DLC.

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      • Seeing how everything else in the game besides the raids drops low leveled, and. I gotta pay 150 marks just for a 280,it seemed find to me, if anything you probably weren't skilled to off to rank up so you came on here whining about it, if not then you just like to complain, either way, you suck

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      • Why do you care about someone else's light level.

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      • I like turtles...

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      • IB is once a month. Trials is every week. Raid is everyday. I don't see your point. imho, IB should have the best gear....not crappy 280 stuff.

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      • This post reminded me of borderlands 2

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      • Oh, but these 315 boots look nice tho ;)

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      • Nope this iron banner was a challenge. Facing a team of solar titans is a challenge. So I'll happily take my 310+ gear.

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      • I guess you haven't figured out how this game works yet.

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        • You can be carried through trails... there aren't any streamers being paid to carry kids through IB. Your point..?

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        • Did u know there are 3 kids in the United States named Herp Derp.

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