This argument is getting stale, it's really dying as people see that Sunbreakers are not so bad. They are still a terrible class. All that anyone needs to do is check destiny tracker. I've gotten into a habit over the last few weeks because I was curious of the actual data. It's been very consistent that hunters are still destroying all other classes. Nightstalker poops all over Sunbreaker. More super kills for both gunslinger and nightstalker. Higher K/D. And it only got worse when trials came out. I played a lot in iron banner (this is usually when I play), not a huge PVP guy overall. I never played PVP before destiny and it was a learning curve. Sunbreakers were not scary in the least. You can easily avoid getting killed by them. I play as a [b][i]hunter[/i][/b] because I'm not a pro, and I know it's still easily the best class overall to get kills with. Bottom line is, the non-Titans are just protecting their class. Its a joke, and it's the cry babies. Now and again you still get one that gets killed, and then comes running to the forum like a B____. Titans have a terrible class. It shows in the data. The data is all that Bungie is going to reference when looking at it. I'm sure they are happy Titans are getting some use for a change.