I agree. Things have changed. There is no satisfaction in loot, only relief of you get a higher rates gear, or disappointment. Before TTK I would run multiple VOG's and Crota's on the same character a week to help people. It felt good, it was fun, and overall, it felt worth it. Now, for King's Fall, it sucks away your time, and failure often causes conflict within the team. After one run I'm satisfied for the week, I want to help, but sometimes it's just too much. I don't feel as if there is a good enough reason to be there.