Over 3,500 hours in the game. Had an illness that kept me at home for a few months. Destiny was how i filled my time. Have a clan with a few members and we used to run raids a lot. Crota 3 times a week and VOG 3 times a week. Looked at my friends list yesterday and 70% were playing blops3 the rest were scattered over various other games. 2 guys on destiny. A couple of weeks ago those numbers would have been reversed. I myself have been playing blops 3 and assassin's Creed syndicate. Got a bunch of us in a party and asked if anyone wanted to raid. Universally the answer was no. So we had a discussion about why we didn't want to raid and what we thought. The biggest answer was why raid for no rewards. Why spend time in a raid to come out of the raid with rewards that were lower levels than the stuff we already had. The OP is spot on with his post. I for one will come back to Destiny when I see a change in the overall system. But not until then. Hopefully Bungie will see the numbers and actually do something to bring us back into the world of Destiny. Until then Fallout will be my main, with a lot of time spent on Tomb Raider