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Edited by Kharnex: 11/10/2015 5:45:01 AM
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You did it Bungie! Im no longer addicted!

A week without playing Destiny has opened my eyes. With TTK destiny got a lot of [b]good[/b] things like the new questing system, more interesting bounties.. a whole new patrol area. Strikes that are fun to play and new subclasses that feel fun to play. But with those good things there came things that in the end ruined the game for me and many others I believe. [b]Weapons:[/b] You took away our favourite weapons from Y1. Fatebringer, Icebreaker, Black hammer and Gjallarhorn and gave us no choice of ascending the gear we have grown into. Instead, you gave us a bunch of new weapons that dont feel as powerful as Y1 weapons even remotely. You murdered Hand cannons and gave us Hand Cannon lovers no way of practising our trade. I personally have not found a set of new weapons I would feel home at. [b]Lvl 34-40:[/b] I went from 34-40 in a one day! In a game where you are forced to grind for gear you get the XP levels for free? XP levels are utterly useless. Just a number which rolls up too quickly. In my opinion this was a huge -blam!- up from bungie.. Levels should have meaning, Levels should be harder to get. [b]Sense of progression and old content:[/b] None! All the gear we have grinded was swept useless in a single blow! Bungie does it periodically to keep players grinding for gear. But for what? I dont see the carrot grinding items anymore. After the items have swept clean from our pockets, the old content get rendered useless. The game gets an "expansion" But actually gets shrinked. [b]Time Gated Items:[/b] Bungie please! Let ME decide when I play! As a father of a 6 year old girl and working 5 days a week I dont have time to play whenever RNG just happens to pop up the quest in the daily rotation. So no black spindle for me, as the days the quest is up I just dont have the time to play. [b]Still no LFG system:[/b] As I said, I dont have time to spend hours visiting Facebook, Bungie.net, DestinyLFG or any other 3rd party LFG site to get a team together I have no proof of how it will perform in the raid. I have like 50 PSN friends on my list and that gets me a 1 raid per 2 weeks if I try really hard. Mainly because my working times are concidered to be different from normal in my country. [b]Rewards:[/b] Last time I played, I was with a struggling team on Oryx. We played 4,5 hours and stopped on Daughters as the team scattered. 2 hours of putting the people together, 4,5 hours of raiding. Thats 6,5 hours of effort.. What was my rewards you may ask? 304 boots and a bunch of shards. RNG system can be so cruel and Bungie claimed they have improved it. Raid drops in general are pretty bad compared what we had in the previous raids. Raiding should be rewarding experience. [b]Microtransactions:[/b] This was just a last nail in the coffin for me. I always have been against games that try and pry more money out of their product by making the player addicted and then starting to cash that addiction in. In response Bungie havent announced anything about the next DLC. There are too much rumors going around. Will it be free? And if its free? Is it going to be cheap like free products are? [b]No point in light 310+:[/b] You released hard raid for us to get over light 310. But for what? to play Hard mode raid? If I land to the moon and kill some dregs as light 260 character, I do it as efficiently as I kill them with light 320 character.. Because the difficulty modifier system is just plain bad. I didnt kill atheon and crota.. Skolas and Oryx just to struggle in a starting area against low level monsters. Where is the sense of character developement here? [b]Iron Banner[/b] I loved the way how House of Wolves iron banner offered you a new way of reaching the maximum level with the etheric light. It felt rewarding and fun way to get those etheric lights. With TTK iron banner you just murdered the illusion of the rewarding experience grinding a week in PvP tournament. Now you have light 280 legendary items as a reward for such a special event? I dont know what to say.. [b]The addiction:[/b] From launch to TTK, I played every single day. And when I didnt play, I would pop up the destiny app and see what the forums had to say about daily missions or would they have a new cheese for the lamp section at crota. In general I had to drop a lot of activities to make time for my beloved new hobby, Destiny. When TTK launched I had a change in work schedule and I slowly started to realize I should probably give some time to the family and friends too. I made the decicion to slow down with destiny and at the same time not knowing about the time gated exotics. Now I keep destiny at bay. I keep prowling the forums and wait if they launch the next DLC.. And what are the major changes if any to the game. But with confidence I must say Destiny is done for me. It seemed like a game I would play trough the whole 10 year plan.. But it turns out its not. Without my addiction I have found a lot of things to do with my life! Its like my eyes would have been opened from a long sleep..
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  • This thread had 665 replies... Now it belongs to The Devil.

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  • Yeah, I took a 4 day break to play bo3 and I realized how much of a better game cod is. They gave the community what we wanted and with fallout coming out tomorrow, I will barely be playing destiny as much as usual

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    • They just took days of work and threw it out the window when you couldn't ascend weapons like vision of confluence, fang of it yut and fatebringer. And all that etheric light we grinded our eyes out for are now useless

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    • So what you're saying is that you're an addict. That's not Bungie's fault. That's a genetic/character flaw. Don't blame Bungie for your bad genetics/habits. Anyways, congratulations. The first step on the road to recovery is admitting you have a problem

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      • How is it possible that it takes you 2 hours to find a lfg group? When I raid, it literally takes me like 5 minutes to find a group, 10 if I was being picky.

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      • I spent all my effort away from Destiny on beating the Reach campaign.

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      • Edited by Antekpec: 11/9/2015 8:25:50 PM
        I pretty much agree with all of this. But I'd like to add - terrible drops in crucible and IB have made me pretty pissed off with PvP. And 99% terrible low light drops in pve is also a huge aggravation to someone not raiding/Trials. The [u]main[/u] issue is I worry anything I do to progress now will be rendered completely obsolete in an upcoming update/dlc and that is a major MAJOR problem in my book.

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      • Although it was long to read, good post.

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      • Bump

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      • I see your problem. You were like everyone else in year 1. Goddamn copies, clones I say.

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      • Lol I feel the guns and gear in year one equate to a Lamborghini and year two they took it back and said here enjoy this 91 Volvo station wagon with three hub caps.

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        • Your "addiction" is just your own decision to play every single day. If it was a real addiction you would have either gone back, or have stopped thinking about it in general if you have that kind of willpower. It also wouldn't be that easy to leave it. You have no addiction, you just thought you did

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        • I feel exactly the same bud, I haven't played since I bought BO3 on Thursday and I don't see myself playing any time soon. I won't buy another dlc unless I get to use year 1 weapons again somehow, nothing year 2 feels great like you say.

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        • Posted this on another thread and is the reason people have or are thinking of walking away. Bit long so my apologies guardians. I've noticed in the past couple of weeks people have dropped out a lot. Reasons 1) New games have come out. Even though people don't want to admit it Other games have dented the Destiny market. 2) Light Level Rewards for completing the "Top Dog End Game Missions" are pretty bad. Raid gear anything from 300-320. Iron Banner 280 upwards Trials of Osiris Non Flawless 260 upwards!!!! ToO Flawless Lighthouse 310-320 3) Grind in a lot of things are Really Really Long. Many also unnecessary like "You must wait till Armsday Reset for next Quest Mission" etc etc. You must do certain PVE or PVP quests to get certain stuff. If you don't like PVP or PVE, but want the item that's bad luck. YOU MUST DO IT. Armsday you must use 200LL guns to complete various tasks, wait till next armsday to get rewards which takes a spot in your weapon inventory slot, then have to have infuse them because the LL drop is so low. 4) Time gated Missions and Exotics. You can only get Black Spindle, NTTE and Sleeper Simulant on certain Missions when they are the daily to then have to wait until they open the next quest stage. Speaking to a lot of my friends and Randoms found on Lfg sites etc they are all saying the same thing. Destiny has turned from a fun Game where you could enjoy your game time with your friends to a near on Full Time Job. They must get the highest LL Possible. (Even though they know it will be worthless come next DLC, where you can go to a vendor and purchase higher LL Items). Tues is a scramble to finish the Raids, Heroics and Nightfall. Finding a competent team off 3rd party sites if your friends arent on for Raids and NF. Then when you do get to play its up to RNGESUS and it's % disciples to get a drop, let alone a better drop than what you already have). Time gated Exotic Daily missions has everybody stressing out because you have to get it done then, otherwise you have to wait till it comes round again & you need your friends on or go look for Randoms that want it also. (Specially Black Spindle Mission if you haven't got it yet). Fri ToO this is where the "Job Interview & CV" comes into full Glory. You must have Emblem, you must have Adept guns, You must have the right class, armour and weapon setup that suits the Party/Game Leader. You must have 6.2368 KD, or you will be kicked and ridiculed for the rest of your gaming life!!!!! I won't get started on the Nerfing of 3oC, weapons everytime another rises to the top because of previous nerf. Lets not forget Strange Coin Nerf, Motes Nerf, Weapon Part Nerf, Armour Part Nerf etc etc. You can hear by Sunday/Monday they have had the life drained out of them, because of all this and realising that by Tues it will all have to be done all over again. People need to realise we are only in yr 2 out of 10 and when you are getting like that and dont enjoy it anymore you have probably burnt yourself out on the game and its time to move on and come back at a later date.

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        • I agree 100%! Would like to also add all the connection errors, game issues have added to the list of what is ruining the game for me. I am very addicted to this game, I have over 3500 hours into it sad to say... and I am to the point now of why am I playing and for what? It was great up until TTK.. now I am quickly losing interest... All I see is a company that cares about draining every last dime from it's customers... Well, I PAY to PLAY... and I'm about done too...

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        • You say you can't get on to play time gated missions Then in Lat part say you are on every day Very odd

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        • I'm on the same boat. Did all 3 raids last week, but I'm thinking about passing this week. There's just no incentive for doing them. It's become more of a chore than fun. My favorite people to raid with have left and I'm stuck repeating content with new people every week. Lets face it, I like to help out, but enough is enough. If I wanted to be explaining again and again I would have been a teacher. I am far from it. I've done the raid with all 3 characters every week since the DLC dropped. Still no titan helmet. Almost everything drops below 315 in the raid. I'm not mad, I'm not sad, I'm just tired. I've also completed hundreds of strikes. No dark blade Helm from the Dark blade strike and no Psion Flare mantle either. Iron banner is as pointless as ever and so is Osiris. Got my first flawless on Saturday, I got nothing to be excited about. My go to primary with this dlc is Hung Jury/Tlaloc. Coming from fatebringer, Word of Crota, VOC, Fang and having to say your new favorite primary is hung jury is just sad. Let's put it like this: My employer used to supply an Acura TL as a company car, they have since changed to a toyota corolla. The corolla is not a bad car, but it's not an Acura TL now is it? At least in the car scenario I'm not even paying for it. I'm the type of player that gets hooked on games for very very long periods of time. At this point I'm just hoping to find my new adiction and I'm trying other games for the first time since February.

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        • Edited by Panda312: 11/9/2015 8:19:05 PM
          Hi

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        • Agreed. I'm not saying I'm completely done with destiny but I'll be logging on only to do the raid.

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        • Great job breaking those digital chains. Get out there and enjoy life and all its splendor! :)

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        • A lot of good points in this post. Really hope bungie are looking and listening.

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        • Exactly why I'm taking a long break from destiny.

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        • I agree with a lot of this, especially the points on progression, rewards, and iron banner. Burn out is setting in. Might need to limit my play time to 1 raid a week and 1 night of Trials going forward. What will keep me around is the community and my friends/clanmates.

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        • Ok so I have been one of the biggest desticles ever. Check my play time. I've been a desticle. However. I think what speaks volumes here is that this post is number one trending. We have all seen these posts with a huge wall of bitching and complaining before. So what makes this one different that it's trending so high. It's different because it's right. Unfortunately. I love destiny. It's been a massive part of me. However like the op I left a little over a week ago. (My kid still plays from time to time I think) however I've not touched it. For all the same reasons. I logged in here tonighy for the first time hoping to see a cool patch or update. Maybe something worth the grind. But instead I found this post. And it makes me sad. I can't help but have love for this game but like so many the taken king has created more problems than it solved. And it solved a lot of issues. Could I make a better game. No. Do I understand the finer points of development. Hell no. But my advice is to stop the grind. This is why people are leaving and staying away. Stop the grind and people may max out a little quicker and fall away. But they will come back because it's worth coming back to. You know when u come back you will gain something. Rather than what it is just now. Doing a raid and getting gear lower than your light level or worse shards for the whole thing is unacceptable and I'm my opinion this is why folk are leaving. Just my wall of text and my opinion. Op for me is spot on though. Unfortunately.

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          • Been feeling the exact same way. This game seems to get a lot of things wrong, than right. There are way better games that deserve my time rather than a cut-content game. I've noticed all people on my friends list are now playing Black ops 3 and I'm sure by tomorrow, Fallout 4. I know I will be.

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          • Great job explaining pro's and con's However I disagree with assembling a raid team. destinylfg.com get's me a team within like 10 seconds of posting. It's more about selecting the right team for me because so many invites flood in. Sad part is honestly if the drop rates for the raid were just better a lot of the other problems would be a lot more bearable but now yah it sucks Not sure why people are hating on trials outside of the fact that the gear for that sucks as well

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