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Edited by Kharnex: 11/10/2015 5:45:01 AM
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You did it Bungie! Im no longer addicted!

A week without playing Destiny has opened my eyes. With TTK destiny got a lot of [b]good[/b] things like the new questing system, more interesting bounties.. a whole new patrol area. Strikes that are fun to play and new subclasses that feel fun to play. But with those good things there came things that in the end ruined the game for me and many others I believe. [b]Weapons:[/b] You took away our favourite weapons from Y1. Fatebringer, Icebreaker, Black hammer and Gjallarhorn and gave us no choice of ascending the gear we have grown into. Instead, you gave us a bunch of new weapons that dont feel as powerful as Y1 weapons even remotely. You murdered Hand cannons and gave us Hand Cannon lovers no way of practising our trade. I personally have not found a set of new weapons I would feel home at. [b]Lvl 34-40:[/b] I went from 34-40 in a one day! In a game where you are forced to grind for gear you get the XP levels for free? XP levels are utterly useless. Just a number which rolls up too quickly. In my opinion this was a huge -blam!- up from bungie.. Levels should have meaning, Levels should be harder to get. [b]Sense of progression and old content:[/b] None! All the gear we have grinded was swept useless in a single blow! Bungie does it periodically to keep players grinding for gear. But for what? I dont see the carrot grinding items anymore. After the items have swept clean from our pockets, the old content get rendered useless. The game gets an "expansion" But actually gets shrinked. [b]Time Gated Items:[/b] Bungie please! Let ME decide when I play! As a father of a 6 year old girl and working 5 days a week I dont have time to play whenever RNG just happens to pop up the quest in the daily rotation. So no black spindle for me, as the days the quest is up I just dont have the time to play. [b]Still no LFG system:[/b] As I said, I dont have time to spend hours visiting Facebook, Bungie.net, DestinyLFG or any other 3rd party LFG site to get a team together I have no proof of how it will perform in the raid. I have like 50 PSN friends on my list and that gets me a 1 raid per 2 weeks if I try really hard. Mainly because my working times are concidered to be different from normal in my country. [b]Rewards:[/b] Last time I played, I was with a struggling team on Oryx. We played 4,5 hours and stopped on Daughters as the team scattered. 2 hours of putting the people together, 4,5 hours of raiding. Thats 6,5 hours of effort.. What was my rewards you may ask? 304 boots and a bunch of shards. RNG system can be so cruel and Bungie claimed they have improved it. Raid drops in general are pretty bad compared what we had in the previous raids. Raiding should be rewarding experience. [b]Microtransactions:[/b] This was just a last nail in the coffin for me. I always have been against games that try and pry more money out of their product by making the player addicted and then starting to cash that addiction in. In response Bungie havent announced anything about the next DLC. There are too much rumors going around. Will it be free? And if its free? Is it going to be cheap like free products are? [b]No point in light 310+:[/b] You released hard raid for us to get over light 310. But for what? to play Hard mode raid? If I land to the moon and kill some dregs as light 260 character, I do it as efficiently as I kill them with light 320 character.. Because the difficulty modifier system is just plain bad. I didnt kill atheon and crota.. Skolas and Oryx just to struggle in a starting area against low level monsters. Where is the sense of character developement here? [b]Iron Banner[/b] I loved the way how House of Wolves iron banner offered you a new way of reaching the maximum level with the etheric light. It felt rewarding and fun way to get those etheric lights. With TTK iron banner you just murdered the illusion of the rewarding experience grinding a week in PvP tournament. Now you have light 280 legendary items as a reward for such a special event? I dont know what to say.. [b]The addiction:[/b] From launch to TTK, I played every single day. And when I didnt play, I would pop up the destiny app and see what the forums had to say about daily missions or would they have a new cheese for the lamp section at crota. In general I had to drop a lot of activities to make time for my beloved new hobby, Destiny. When TTK launched I had a change in work schedule and I slowly started to realize I should probably give some time to the family and friends too. I made the decicion to slow down with destiny and at the same time not knowing about the time gated exotics. Now I keep destiny at bay. I keep prowling the forums and wait if they launch the next DLC.. And what are the major changes if any to the game. But with confidence I must say Destiny is done for me. It seemed like a game I would play trough the whole 10 year plan.. But it turns out its not. Without my addiction I have found a lot of things to do with my life! Its like my eyes would have been opened from a long sleep..
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    I myself thought destiny was going to be a great 10 years, I honestly admit it has a lot of potential but a 500 million dollar game that failed this much with its repetitive system, lousy story, horrible drops, and unimaginable low amount of content, I gotta say that destiny in my mind will be forgotten unless they put effort into a good game.

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  • I understand your points, but I don't agree. Weapons: Y1 Weapons were designed for the needs of Y1 content. Y2 introduces new mechanics and needs. Of course they want you to stop using the old stuff and go after the new stuff. If you were able to carry over all your old gear, you'd have no reason to get the new stuff. The new weapons I've acquired have more than enough fulfilled my needs. Heavy shielded enemies are few are far between, and the weapons I have melt those shields quickly. Besides I found a rather nifty use for all my Y1 weapons... Weapon Parts... I agree about Level 34 - 40... Once you get to Level 40, its pretty useless. I see the only purpose was to lock you out of content until reaching the specific level. In respect to Level Boosting... many MMO's and their like have been using boosters to allow newcomers to get from level 1 to whatever, so that they can enjoy the content. It's normal. Sense of Progression - New year, new content, new gear... It's been two months.... stop whining about not being able to bring over Fatebringer. Try Hung Jury... I hear its amazing. :D Time Gated Events: I think they are a pain, just because I'm impatient. However, the time gated events stay in cycle pretty often, so I find it hard to believe that you simply can't ever find time to do one of them. I work 40 hours a week, study, take care of family needs, and I still find time, while not always the first go around. LFG systems - It's better to join a clan. My clan Raids several times a week. I don't always get to raid with them due to scheduling conflicts, but we raid enough that I'm still able to complete the Raid two to three times a week, and our clan is tiny. There are much larger clans out there that are always looking for new players. Research, get into one. You'll be much happier. Rewards - I agree... Once you get above 310 it's sort of sad that the rewards you get during a NF, Strike, and or Crucible quest (Lord Shaxx) don't rank up with you. It would be nice if these events had a chance to drop items "around" your light level. It would make playing these events much more satisfying. Microtransactions - Bungie has already stated that these things will remain cosmetic only, so I don't know what the problem is. No point in being Light 310 + - The advantages in being a 310 guardian versus 260 comes in the form of End Game activities. You're right it doesn't make a difference when fighting Dregs on the moon, but it makes a HUGE difference when you're battle a boss in the raid. Again high light levels were designed for end game content, such as ToO, KF, and IB. Iron Banner - You're right on this. Iron Banner was a huge let down due to anemic drops and low light level gear. They need to make the purchasable gear at least 300 Light to be on mark with the old IB gear. They will be increasing the drop rates and such when the next one hits... Lets hope it works this time. The Addiction - It's all about time management. Any video game (Skyrim) can be addicting, but you can't let that interfere with your actual life. I try to get all of my important things done for the day before I game. This way I'm using free time for gaming, and that's it.

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      • When a player base quits out of frustration. Then the game has certainly failed. Many are leaving from the terrible RNG in anything you do. IB was terrible, the raid is even worse. Same items over and over. And in most cases of lower level. If I have a pair of gloves at 316 why are 310 gloves still dropping. It should at least be the same or higher. At this rate with RNG you will never reach 320-330 before you quit from frustration. Bungie you a very serious issue that you need to address now and not later. You may sit on your previous success and feel satisfied, but now you have serious competition and hopefully your paying attention. You need to address your community now before your time has come and gone. Just my 2 cents. From a frustrated player failing to advance from no fault of my own :(

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      • You are correct!!!

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      • I agree with a lot of what you say, only I don't Raid, and have never wanted to since TTK was launched. They have stretched this game out to make maximum profit, that's why we have new missions that are just reversed areas, old weapons removed so we have to grind for new ones, which are recycled versions of old ones. They have stretched it too far, and now rely on time gated content to keep it going. I still like the game, but my experience is being soured every time I redo a mission. At least PVP is enjoyable.

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      • No one cares. This is old, repetitive and annoying.

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        • Well, you don't HAVE to only play Destiny.. I'm sure your PS Plus/Xbox Live subscription gives you plenty of other games to play. And when you feel like it, pop in Destiny and play it with some friends or with matchmaking..

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        • I agree with every single word you're saying

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        • I did not read any of it, as I am certain you wrote the same thing as every other derp who had a similar title.

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          • Pretty much. Rng sucked but with the amount of weapons and gear in the game it kept me playing. And I hate to say it but House of Wolves was the pinnacle of the game IMO. All content was viable.

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          • [quote][b]Weapons:[/b] You took away our favourite weapons from Y1. Fatebringer, Icebreaker, Black hammer and Gjallarhorn and gave us no choice of ascending the gear we have grown into. Instead, you gave us a bunch of new weapons that dont feel as powerful as Y1 weapons even remotely. You murdered Hand cannons and gave us Hand Cannon lovers no way of practising our trade.[/quote] "Our" favorite weapons? You can speak for yourself, not everyone. And besides that, releasing new weapons year 2 would be rather underwhelming if they kept overpowered year 1 stuff around. Gjallarhorn was ridiculous and easily the boss-killer weapon of PvE. Why would you use anything else? Icebreaker made you never have to worry about ammo, Black Hammer was ridiculous for killing bosses before the nerf. You neglect to mention, though, that Black Spindle is an exotic version of nerfed Black Hammer, Imago Loop is effectively year 2 Fatebringer with the exact same stats in every category and given the right rolls can get Outlaw and Firefly. Sleeper Sim is a contender for year 2 boss-slayer, being capable of scoring crits on bosses. Not to mention plenty of year one exotics have still made it over to year two that I'm sure people are fans of. [quote][b]Lvl 34-40:[/b] I went from 34-40 in a one day! In a game where you are forced to grind for gear you get the XP levels for free? XP levels are utterly useless. Just a number which rolls up too quickly. In my opinion this was a huge -blam!- up from bungie.. Levels should have meaning, Levels should be harder to get.[/quote] "XP levels for free", I can't say I understand what that means. I didn't just log into my Warlock and do absolutely nothing to get from 34 to 40, I got it the same way I've always gotten experience: missions, bounties, and fighting stuff. Beyond that, yes, levels don't matter except for determining what gear you can use; at the cap stop improving by levels but by access to new and powerful gear , because there needs to be another method of improvement. I don't see why this is an issue; did you not like it that once you were Level 20 your progress was only determined by gear? [quote][b]Sense of progression and old content:[/b] None! All the gear we have grinded was swept useless in a single blow! Bungie does it periodically to keep players grinding for gear. But for what? I dont see the carrot grinding items anymore. After the items have swept clean from our pockets, the old content get rendered useless. The game gets an "expansion" But actually gets shrinked.[/quote] News flash from someone who was Light Level 30 before the The Dark Below came out: This isn't something that happened with only the Taken King. Plenty of people could hit Light Level 30 once the Dark Below was out without needing to grind VoG Hard Mode; it didn't make that time meaningless, though, because I already had a head start. Yes, Taken King's new cap makes your old "requires Level 20" gear not as useful, but you have to be joking if you're telling me there's "no sense of progression" from 170 Light at Level 40 to 310 Light. Also, you can totally use your Y1 stuff in Crucible. Friend of mine likes rocking full VoG gear and his Mythoclast. [quote][b]Time Gated Items:[/b] Bungie please! Let ME decide when I play! As a father of a 6 year old girl and working 5 days a week I dont have time to play whenever RNG just happens to pop up the quest in the daily rotation. So no black spindle for me, as the days the quest is up I just dont have the time to play.[/quote] Uh...looking down further in your post you say you played nearly every single day or at least checked on the community, so...yeah. You could check the daily and if it comes up and try to get to it when it's out. [quote][b]Still no LFG system:[/b] As I said, I dont have time to spend hours visiting Facebook, Bungie.net, DestinyLFG or any other 3rd party LFG site to get a team together I have no proof of how it will perform in the raid. I have like 50 PSN friends on my list and that gets me a 1 raid per 2 weeks if I try really hard. Mainly because my working times are concidered to be different from normal in my country.[/quote] This is a valid point. [quote][b]Rewards:[/b] Last time I played, I was with a struggling with a team on Oryx. We played 4,5 hours and stopped on Daughters as the team scattered. 2 hours of putting the people together, 4,5 hours of raiding. Thats 6,5 hours of effort.. What was my rewards you may ask? 304 boots and a bunch of shards. RNG system can be so cruel and Bungie claimed they have improved it. Raid drops in general are pretty bad compared what we had in the previous raids. Raiding should be rewarding experience.[/quote] Loot is dropped based on the loot pool for the part of the raid you're at; that you didn't get good loot and that you had trouble finding a good group in a timely manner isn't really the game's fault. It can be a rewarding experience, but then in again, it's random loot. Sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad, that's RNG. [quote][b]Microtransactions:[/b] This was just a last nail in the coffin for me. I always have been against games that try and pry more money out of their product by making the player addicted and then starting to cash that addiction in. In response Bungie havent announced anything about the next DLC. There are too much rumors going around. Will it be free? And if its free? Is it going to be cheap like free products are?[/quote] Lolwut? "Bungie haven't announced anything about the next DLC". As far as I've heard, it will be free and the microtransactions were brought in to pay for that. If you think these microtransactions for emotes are bad I can only imagine how you'd feel about it in other games where it gives far more significant things like gear and weapons or in games where it makes it pay to win. [quote][b]No point in light 310+:[/b] You released hard raid for us to get over light 310. But for what? to play Hard mode raid? If I land to the moon and kill some dregs as light 260 character, I do it as efficiently as I kill them with light 320 character.. Because the difficulty modifier system is just plain bad. I didnt kill atheon and crota.. Skolas and Oryx just to struggle in a starting area against low level monsters. Where is the sense of character developement here?[/quote] This is a complete non-sequitor. "So we get the the hard raid, but I kill Level 6 dregs in the same number of shots at 260 as I do at 320!" Is your point that just looking at them should make their heads explode? They're Level [b]6[/b], you're Level 40, does it really even matter at all? They're not a threat to you, you're way over their level. How you'd even claim that you "struggle" with them is asinine unless you're playing blind-folded and using your feet. [quote][b]Iron Banner[/b] I loved the way how House of Wolves iron banner offered you a new way of reaching the maximum level with the etheric light. It felt rewarding and fun way to get those etheric lights. With TTK iron banner you just murdered the illusion of the rewarding experience grinding a week in PvP tournament. Now you have light 280 legendary items as a reward for such a special event? I dont know what to say..[/quote] Bungie already addressed the poor loot drop rewards. But oh no, the really good weapons, like Nirwen's Mercy, don't drop at 320, how unfair for you, you have to infuse things into it to make it stronger, woe is you. Yeah, kinda lost my patience with these points at the end since only one was really valid and the last two were stupid. Go play other games, you don't have to dedicate all your time to one game or even one [i]hobby[/i] for crying out loud.

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            • I disagree. This post is a bit like filing a lawsuit against McDonalds for buying their hot coffee and then spilling it on yourself. Yes TTK has many issues; this is undeniable. But the time commitment? You can't get mad at Bungie for creating a product that you bought of your own volition and then it wasn't exactly what you wanted it to be. Chances are, you knew full well the time commitment involved when you bought the game. I won't demand that McDonalds start importing its coffee from another country if I don't like it; I just go down the street to Starbucks where I do like the coffee. In this case, get into a new game or start something else. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to Bungie changing everything in the game to the way that you want it. And just in case you're thinking you don't feel entitled, you do; you cared enough to write this post and make it an issue. I think a lot of Destiny gamers don't get this. Bungie owns the game; we don't. I can't get livid at McDonalds if they don't change their lunch menu; I just find a new lunch spot and move on without ranting.

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            • I seriously do not understand how people are on Bungie's side with regards to the underwhelming TTK weapons. I hear people say they rather have it like this than everyone using y1 OP weapons for every single occasion. Well why doesn't Bungie keep developing weapons that encourages people to use them? Instead of taking away and making the old weapons useless, give us more equivalent options and make it hard for us to choose. After the IB that dropped the felwinters and allowed us to reroll to the stats that we wanted, did you honestly think you would use anything else? After the LDR could be reforged, did you honestly think you would use anything else for a sniper in most occasions? Well what happened was that they introduced equivalent quality shotties during HoW and guardians debated on which was the best. Party crasher vs fel winters vs matador, and it was a heated battle with many trying to prove one was [u]better[/u] than the other. For snipers, people were starting to use her benevolence, shadow of veils and low-grade humility. And their were so many discussions why one was more [u]OP[/u] than the other. Yes I understand thorn and tlw pre-nerf was ridiculously OP, but would so many people complain if there were alternatives that we're just as good? Now it seems like we discuss which weapon is less crappy. How can bungie expect people to continue loving this game when players are stuck choosing one weapon because it sucks less than the other? They already opened the gates on elemental primaries and reforging and now they take it back and pretended it never happened. It's like having a -blam!- buddy for a few months, one who you have no interest being real friends with telling you that no more sex is going to be involved.... Yea most people are very likely going to see that person just as much right? With the state we're now, we are [u]still[/u] using a few weapons and you know what they are. There's no real variety, and that's not the guardians fault. It's never the guardians fault for using the best weapons while playing competitively. It's the [u]developers[/u] fault for not providing enough alternatives. [u]Give me a god damn reason to use another weapon option instead of nerfing it or leaving it behind. Make it hard for me to choose because there are equally good options instead of because there's no better option[/u] #rantover

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              • Play time has dropped off for me as well. Removing old weapons and armor just to recycle it with a different name and colors isn't the most appealing thing. If it weren't for freinds I probably wouldn't play at all.

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              • They started cutting their gear too much and got greedy. Now we arent even addicted we are just bored.

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              • You can get black spindle anytime if you run the mission on hard at least that is what my friend said

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                • Why can't this RNG be like WoW, your guarentted good gear, well better than before preety unless you've ran it like 50 times. The only HARD things to get are really rare and valuabe items. I didn't raid much in WoW but WoW's loot system kept bringing me back.

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                  • [spoiler]snape kills dumbledore[/spoiler]

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                  • I cant do that this is the only game I have

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                  • Trust me Bungie won't be a crackpot for long This game will eventually change As long as Jason Jones stops tripping out

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                  • I dont know why they dont add more stuff in the game,a level cap at 50-60,30-40 exotic guns/gear.just more stuff.

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                  • I can say I agree with a good portion of this, not everything fully but for the most part you made some great points. Hope this post gets a bit more attention and people try to understand from others point of view instead of criticizing.

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