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11/5/2015 7:56:31 AM
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The problem here is that you and the person you quoted seem to think that Destiny is your intellectual property. That we as the consumer call the shots on how this product develops. We don't. Bungie do. It is theirs to do with as they will, you merely pay to play it.
That is true for almost every product sold. Sure companies will listen to feedback and may act upon it but it is their right to do what they want with their product. Of course, they are going to try to make it appeal to the widest audience, and by definition that means it will not appeal to everyone.
So with Destiny, they make changes that they see fit to make. You like some, you dont like others. You can comment, they may listen but ultimately you make a choice with your feet, you either stay and take what they give you or you go elsewhere. Stop treating this with a sense of entitlement to get what YOU want.
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Hey ass hat. Remember that one time you bought something and it turned out to be a piece of shit? It broke, it was a game that sucked, just god awful terrible that was for full price or was food that tasted terrible and quite possibly made you sick" You no longer have the ability to complain about It because "Its not your intellectual property, you merely own it," just like the game is to Destiny, the design of the POS product or the recipe Congratulations, your nomination for "Dumbest regurgitated statement on the internet" has been received and is due for processing. Please never speak again you entitled moron.
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Aww bless him.
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This guy never got past 5th grade
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I really doubt any game developers sees their game that way. Especially with this sort of game which is supposed to be a "living, expanding universe". You're supposed to develop a relationship with your player base. The core mechanics and idea behind the game will always be the intellectual property of the developer, sure. But once the game is released, player feedback is crucial to keeping the game current and relevant. This is the biggest argument against Bungie right now. Players ask to go left, and they go right. These things might work out short term, but in the long run they will lead to a decreasing player base. The statistics being put out that show an increasing player base need to be taken with a grain of salt. My friend list for example, is only connected to raid and some couple of other activities, and the rest of the week they're off playing a different game. This means they're technically active, but not the way they used to be. They have become "casual gamers". This statistically means they are active players, but they have gone from hardcore players to casual players, and the trend will keep going.
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Oh I agree, it should be a relationship, up to a point, but what I am saying is the tail doesn't and shouldn't wag the dog. You can demand all the nerfs and buffs and leveling systems you want. They will only be implemented if they fit with the direction they want to take their product. And that frankly is how it should be. You cannot successfully create something like this by committee.
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You make it sound like bungie is doing is a favor by letting us play destiny. Bungie as a company is reliant on putting out a product people will buy. If they don't, they will fail as a company. This means making something the player enjoys. Because the fact of the matter is you don't have to buy it. That being said, yes. Bungie does need to listen to its player base if they want people to keep spending money on the game. I'm not saying they need to take every suggestion, but they do need to take it and balance what the player wants with what the company wants. Right now, it's all about what they want. How they want the game to be played. The weapons they like. Everything is about bungie. Which would be fine if this game wasn't contingent on you playing it. As much as people like to pretend they don't, they need you to keep the game alive. And ultimately the company.
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I think we are saying the same thing. The problem for bungie is they have to make changes that, as they see it, are for the good of the majority, that by definition means there will be a minority who don't like it. Times that by the many many changes that get made and then look on the forum and you could be forgiven for thinking that nobody likes or plays the game. Add to that people are far more likely to be vocal when complaining than complimenting . So the only viable option for them is to do what they believe is best and hope the majority agree. What they do do though is listen and adapt, but by doing that they then upset a whole new group of people. You think that they are doing things to almost spite people, I think they are walking an impossible path as best they can.
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But I find that argument faulty because Bungie's game blurs the lines- it isn't sold as a monthly pay to play.
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No, they don't but the argument stands. They can do as they see fit with the game, add micro transactions, Nerf guns, remove content unless you have the latest dlc, all that and a lot more, because they own the product. Even if it is detrimental to their sales. It is just left to the individual if they want to continue with that product or go elsewhere. BMW can, if they choose to, make all their cars three wheelers and only available in turd brown. Nothing you could say would stop them. It is their intellectual property to do with what they please. The only input you as a consumer could have is to decide to either buy another make or buckle up for some scary drives in a literal POS on wheels.
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Some people are actually in denial about what you mentioned. There's something in their brain that can't fathom the logic and hold their false-sense of entitlement to the level of the controlling stakeholder.
