So the debate has been ongoing for a few days now. What does everyone think? I see some saying that its a "Smart Strategy". Well that seems odd to me, Isn't that like saying sniping the oracles from atop the ledge in VoG was a "smart start"? It involves the exact same thing.... I think people are confusing a "smart strategy" with a cheesy strategy. If its smartt to leave ogres alive, i guess its also "smart" to snipe oracles from up top, "smart" to cheese the bridge in Crota, etc . I mean lets look at why people cheese, they cheese because the encounter is too hard and complicated for them and their skills are not good enough to overcome the challenge. My thoughts: No Knights Cheese - for crappier players, not as skilled, can't communicate well, can't kill an ogre, can't kill a red bar knight with sniper/rocket/machine gun Killing Knights, (regular Strat) - strat forgetter players, who can kill an ogre, kill a red night, can get back to the middle, can stagger oryx, take out the minimal ads, set off their bombs - oh, and don't wholeheartedly suck at this game EDIT: It would seem he consensus is becoming clear. Most, even the cheesers, think that performing the intended mechanics takes more skill, while using the other (cheesy) method requires much less skill, lower light levels, lackluster communication, and is able to allow for the complete carry of 2-3 fire team members if necessary (just like the oracle encounter) EDIT: Question, can someone explain to me how 95% of video posts about the cheese strat were titled with something about how it was a CHEESE< yet everyone that then used that way of doing it now says its not a cheese, instead a "Smart strat"? How did you guys following remove that piece?