iracing is on PC... Again you are trying to claim that all "serious guys" are only on one platform which just isn't true. You cannot compare NFS with GT, Forza, and other sims... because it's apples & oranges. NFS was about capturing underground car culture, and interesting story (fiction), massive cosmetic tuning, and most of all fun. I'm a huge motorsport fan, particularly F1, but I can enjoy all of it, so I can get on any sim racer and enjoy myself, but sims become frustrating after a while because if you don't have a racing wheel, you won't win. I used to have a G27 and it was great, but it took up so much room i just wasn't worth it for one genre of game. Without a wheel on console you have no chance of keeping up with the wheel users. NFS was a great franchise in the beginning, but it went downhill quite a lot because of the whole "forcing people to drift" thing. The new one is going to change that, and seen as Project cars gets boring very quickly, and Forza is only on Xbox, I think there will be a lot of people on the new NFS. "|I don't care about bodykits and non-functional spoilers" I'm pretty sure the spoilers in the old NFS Underground series added to the overall grip package on he car. Either way you sound like a bit of a snob, someone that is keen to compare two different racing cultures as though they're the same and then throw nothing but negativity on it.