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10/29/2015 8:34:15 AM
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Christmas is secular? The birth of Christ, our Saviour, is secular? Just because it has been commercialised doesnt make it secular. Then again: Ramadan is a month of fasting and introspection... its not a celebration.. neither is Eid... you arent meant to be celebrating, you are meant to give thanks to what you have and remember those that have less
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First of, it's YOUR savior, not mine. In addition, Christmas didn't even start as a Christian holiday. And no one I know celebrates the birth of YOUR savior, but rather their loved ones.
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No, christmas didnt start as a Christian holiday... it was a pagan holiday which is still not a secular holiday. And whether you are celebrating the birth of a saviour (which by the way its doubtful that it was in december) or not doesnt make it not a religious holiday. In fact im sure you dont celebrate Eid or Hannukah or Quanza and yet those are still religious holidays whether you are celebrating them or not.
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Christmas is secular? http://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk
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A celebration of the birth of the son of God, a member of the Holy trinity, seen as the savior by the Christian faith. Arguments can be made that many of the activities surrounding it were hijacked from pagan rituals and corrupted by capitalist desire to make money (i have no problem with this but it's what happened) but Christmas is very much a Christian holiday. Labor day is secular.
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Then tell the world a huge amount of people have been celebrating Christmas, or Weihnachten, wrong for years.
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So your argument is the fact they use a different name but it is still a celebration of the birth of christ? No that's not religious at all.
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No, but a lot of people don't give a shit about religion and still celebrate Christmas, Weihnachten, or whatever you may call it, because or its meaning. Try finding a non-muslim who celebrates Ramadan
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My contention would be those people arn't celebrating christmas. You can give gifts hang stockings and put up a tree, doesn't mean your celebrating christmas whether you call it that or not. Since all those traditions were taken from pagan rituals, you are celebrating those. If I decide to fast during the same month as Ramadan but it has no spiritual meaning to me, am I celebrating Ramadan? No that's absurd. Just because you take actions mimicking a religion without following the meaning behind it does not negate the fact it is still a religious holiday.
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These people are celebrating modern Christmas, not the dated Christian version
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Then tell the world a huge amount of people have been celebrating Christmas, or Weihnachten, wrong for years.
