Project cars isn't great, I have it... It's not bad but it's a sim. At the end of the day it's nice to have a fun racing game with a bit of creativity, not just another track racer... I have Formula 1, Gran Turismo, and PR for track racers with a G27. NFS has never been about that, except for those two disgraceful shift games... NFS Underground, Underground 2 & Most Wanted (original) were not sh*t games... All the previous ratings, and people who actually know what good games are will testify to that. Those games captured an underground car culture of the time, and were the perfect mix between sim and arcade. Also forza is only on xbox remember... So not all the "serious racers" are over there, Infact I'd argue that with GT Academy running for the last 5+ years, and PS4 having double the population of the XB1, there are far more "serious racers" on PSN, than there are Xbox. Just sayin'