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Edited by CheLime: 10/26/2015 7:34:14 PM
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To clear up Eris' "evil" ending

She picked up a crystal off of oryx's sword. If you look closely it's the same crystal as the one on top of the hilt on your swords. And who gives you the quest to create your sword? Eris is not evil and I don't know why so many people are confused on this topic. I still see posts saying "IS ERIS EVIL?!?!!??!?!" Edit: since alot of people are ignorant and dont want to believe me here is something to add on. Mara sov in the opening cutscene for ttk says "you and I both know how this ends ever since you crawled out of that pit" Mara sov is a queen and Eris is the only one that came out of a pit. Mara also refers to eris as an agent of some sort and eris is part of ikora rey's secret order of warlocks *CORRECTION* secret order of Guardians *sorry*. [spoiler]just wanted to clear that up[/spoiler] Ill just wait for some more hate down below to prove me wrong. Or well attempt to. Edit: The point of this post was that I don't think Eris should jump to conclusions saying Eris is evil from that ending after we defeat oryx. I've seen people say that she has connections to some other hive God which might be true I haven't gotten too far into reaching the book of sorrows yet but i was just clearing up the ending seen where people claim Eris picked up some evil hive crystal from willbreaker (oryx's sword) to try and kill us Edit: 350 replies. Some agreeing with me. Some strongly disagreeing and others that somewhat agree but are telling me some more of the lore from the book of sorrows (which I am yet to have read)[spoiler]dont crucify me for not reading the book of sorrows please[/spoiler] Edit: to those who don't think Eris was talking to Mara sov, in the grimoire card for "The Road To Kings Fall" Eris says "Mara sov was right, it is all down to the guardians now"

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  • She even talks to Osiris

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      Next you're going to tell me those raisins that she gave me were Oryx's wrinkled up scrotum....

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    • Eris died in Crota's realm. The person we've been dealing with the whole time is Savathun, Oryx's sister. Think about it: - "Eris" has no ghost. - She creates a weapon of Darkness for us (ToM) - She knows far more than a guardian could about the hive (if she was hiding from them to survive the pit, she wouldn't be learning their rituals) - She was able to exude control over Crota's own throne world to save us when we screwed up stealing some of his soul. No guardian would have that much can control over a world of Darkness. Her behavior also fits Savathun's description from the books of sorrow perfectly. She has tricked and corrupted other enemies of the Hive from within during their previous assaults. She has also killed or attempted to kill Oryx hundreds of times since their symbiosis with the Worms, so arming us to kill her brother isn't out of character at all. Lastly, she would have no qualms about killing Oryx permanently in his throne world. Oryx himself mused at the idea of killing his siblings in their throne worlds, and by their sword logic, if one was too weak to stand their ground in their throne world, they deserve to be killed forever. I firmly believe she will eventually reveal herself to be Oryx's sister. We're not done with the Hive. They are the truest champion of the Darkness we fight, so until Oryx's sisters also die in their throne worlds, we will continue to fight them as a primary enemy.

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      • Until you've read the book of sorrows I suggest that you refrain from posting and telling us all that your right and that Eris is not evil. The book of sorrows makes Eris sound like oryx's sister. So go ahead and read and you can come back and edit your post at a later time.

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        • I'm not buying the "Eris isn't evil because I say so" theory, and it's pretty arrogant to call people ignorant for having a different opinion on something that NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE. I definitely think she's hiding something, and the theory that she is one of Oryx sisters is a very well thought out one. That doesn't make me or anyone else "ignorant" anymore than OP. Protip: we're all ignorant on this matter until we know the truth fir a fact.

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        • She gave raisins...doesn't that tell you enough?

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        • She also refers to her as her "Hidden" friend

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        • I was told she was a hunter, not a warlock. Could be bs, idk much about her. What I do know is that the hive obviously have a strong influence over her. What leads me to believe that she might betray the city is what she says in the final cutscene, that she understands her role, and will not fail. Oryx is dead, what role is there left to play? Unless she is referring to leading the awoken, which might possibly be true considering we still don't know if Mara's unseen friend is Eris or the guardian, I can see no other possibilities. We have yet to see much about Destiny 2, or Eris' involvement in it, but I firmly believe she is struggling to hold on to sanity, and her loyalty to protecting the city, not to mention despite being a guardian, we really don't know much about what happened to her in the pit, or what became of her ghost.

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          • I love Eris, her 3 glowing eyes... Her tears oozing down her face... That sexy potato sack she wears... And those lips... Mmmm...mmm... Mmm She can be whatever she wants.

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            • She gave us raisins and yet you defend her? I suspect OP is also an agent of a hive god. Eris is evil confirmed.

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              • Real question is why does she wear a potato sack on her head

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                • Eris gave us healthy snacks. Clearly she's a good guy.

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                • I did not think she was evil until today. A tiny box of raisins...

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                • She gave me raisins for Halloween. That's pretty evil if you ask me.

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                  • The Halloween event confirms Eris is evil!!! She gives you a box of raisins instead of candy!!!

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                    • Just a thought here. Maybe eris is tied to the darkness in a different way. Maybe she in a sense gave her soul to the hive. Maybe the hive just hasnt used her yet. Kind of like they planted some mind control shit thinking they can use her to infiltrate the tower. And if she knew this. She would be helping the guardians to spare herself since she knows her fate.

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                    • Maybe the queen is talking to the guardian, the pit being earth, hellmouth, or prison of elders

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                    • Read the book of sorrows, it's amazing lore.

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                    • What is a Eris?

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                      • Eris gave us a box of raisins...if that's not evil, I don't know what is

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                        • [quote]Mara sov in the opening cutscene for ttk says "you and I both know how this ends ever since you crawled out of that pit" Mara sov is a queen and Eris is the only one that came out of a pit.[/quote] I have wondered about what Mara meant for a LONG ASS time. Thank you so much. It makes so much sense.

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                        • Can I just say (and apologise before hand as this adds nothing to the debate), what great reading this post was. No name calling or arguing. Thanks :)

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                        • It's obvious she has some secret plan, but we just don't know if it's good or bad. Don't assume either right now.

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                        • -blam!-ing raisins for Halloween. I said enough

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                        • She gave me a -blam!-in box of raisins she's definitely evil

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                          • Edited by corujariousa: 10/26/2015 7:32:55 PM
                            Very interesting point. I too noticed the crystal is the one on the swords but Eris words when she picks up that Crystal does bring suspicion. How can you prove Oryx has no tracking on those crystals and can use them to keep tabs on the guardians? All that killing with swords on the crucible is evil and may be feeding Oryx. :-)

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