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Edited by Jcaf8: 11/11/2016 4:49:51 PM
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Misunderstanding of Grimoire, lore busters 1

This is the first of many busting common misconceptions in the grimoire [u]Rasputin Attacked the Traveler to cripple It/Her[/u] This is [b]False[/b]. Rasputin cards debunk this, long version After reading most of the lore you can tell that rasputin for would have time to even shoot the traveler much less want to:he was built to defend us and to get protect our important property, whether it's a base on mars or a big white entity of the void that gifts us with life. Rasputin sent his nukes to the ships fleeing, not the traveler. The second he deactivated all counter measures and protection of the population he destroyed ships that were fleeing earth(Card awoken, it made awoken), and this large exhaust of light most likely stopped the darkness from coming and saved us. He went to sleep and didn't want to be reactivated until the traveler awoke(If you read the end of mysteries 2 there's some thing that is a machine waiting for the two great scales to be balanced.) as you can see in the promethean code scannable objects. If you look at mysteries 1 he "sighs his shoulder" and the traveler did not, meaning that he sacrificed most of humanity to save some of it, but the traveler loved us too much to do that, only a warmind would be rational enough to do what it takes to win. His main objective was to Complete the midnight EXIGENT. He got half of it done but we need to destroy the darkness now. Short version? traveler 2. solid evidence to the debunking without needing explanation from me. "This has been such a long chase. But this is where you fight. Fight and win" it also mentions that the traveler may be getting pushed, hinting this very topic. I believe BUNGIE makes us want want to be confused about this. But that's definitely up to speculation. The traveler left the fallen but it seems like at that point the darkness is directly chasing it and not oryx, to clarify oryx had been chasing the traveler and destroying all the races that had light. It seems the traveler at one point wasn't being chased by oryx anymore, but a embodiment of the darkness like the travelers form. I conclude this since the fallen never fought the hive as we know of, and had their own collapse that sent them on a conquest toward our system. It is possible oryx killed any fallen that stayed, but we have no flavor texts of that, and if there were to be a house that was killed it would be the house of stone, who were destroyed during the whirlwind and would explain why the Kells name is on the scout rifle of kings fall. The only direct fighting of hive vs.fallen is the moon, and later when they started to invade earth, but it looks like they were only trying to gain land from each other and not actual enemies who wanted to fight each other, just were in the way of each other for the traveler(fallen to reclaim, hive to devour) New stuff incoming, when I have a bit more time.
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  • Edited by Antares-3: 10/22/2015 11:58:10 AM
    "If available ISR and WARWATCH indicates imminent [O] departure >then [O] departure compromises human/neohuman survival and epoch strategy Stand by for ABHORRENT IMPERATIVE: Activate LOKI CROWN Perform deniable authorization: full caedometric and noetic release Prevent [O] departure by any means available" RAS:5 says other wise. The Loki Crown is a massive weapon that utilizes intellect (caedometric weapon coming from the latin to cut or strike, and noetic meaning related to a mental activity). He was about to strike with some sort of intellect based attack, as a noetic [i]release[/i] implies. "Stand by for effect assessment criteria: Coerce pseudoaltruistic [O] defensive action. Defer civilization kill." The last line is key, as it is the last input of RAS, itself. Pseudo-altruism as defined by the NCBI, I trust them... "Pseudo-altruism is a pattern of behavior used by people who have a problem in coping satisfactorily with repressed rage. Observed in both individual and group psychotherapy, it allows the discharge of unacceptable impulses through professed concern about others." The darkness approached. RAS inferred, incorrectly, that the Traveler's pseudo altruistic impulse was to leave us, just as it had done to the Fallen, before us. We know RAS was wrong, because we have the [O]'s true last thoughts, thanks to the alpha lupi cards. "This has been such a long chase. This will be the place you will fight. Fight and win. But do you really know why you go where you go, and where this journey is taking you? The chase leads you where you need to be, you believe. Unless...you are being pushed." But, the Traveler still felt the sting of the Loki Crown. "The knife had a million blades. And you were giant, powerful and swift. But the knife pinned you. Cut your godly flesh away. Very little was left, you are sure, because you feel insignificant now. The hard slick heart of your soul: That is what remains. A body small as a river stone, and just as simple. You picture yourself as a piece of indigestible grit, a nameless nothing hiding among other nameless stones. Perhaps you glitter like a gem, yes. Pride makes you hope so. If only you could see yourself. But you have no eyes. Not the dimmest sense survives. What lives is memory, and what slim portion of these thoughts can you trust? The knife stole much more than your body." Traveler 2+3 are quoted above. edit: "STOP STOP STOP V101NTS923ATS001" maybe we saw the ghosts arriving... thats speculative though. This is someone overriding the protocols of RAS's AI, though. there are only 4 people who could do that. and i may be wrong, but if i am, I'd like some grimoire to help me understand where you're coming from.

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