[quote]I don't understand how this is related to gaming however, if you do not suppose that this is a boy's club, with rules made by said boys.[/quote] It relates to gaming just like this, I'm walking into hostile territory and doing what I want to do. It's not any more complicated than that. Females gamers are walking into territory that is notorious for having foul mouthed, badly raised children. These female gamers are then doing whatever they want to do. Once you open yourself up to the public, the rules get tossed out the window. It's the same reason why video games don't rate online experiences. They just can't predict how stupid people will act. My original analogy was simply me making a wrong turn into a PETA convention while in my hunting gear. I exaggerated it later for emphasis. I acknowledge that my exaggeration may have taken it off the rails, but the underlying point is still valid.