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10/16/2015 5:14:48 AM
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I want you to read that, and tell me how broken those statistics are. When compares to the gun crime of the world, not just the 25 wealthiest countries, it looks like nothing. What, because money is involved, that statistic is supposed to mean something? Or are you forgetting that most of these countries also don't have gun laws as strict as anywhere in the united states? Either way, the statistic about children may be true, but those children live in households lacking responsible adults. Nobody who's responsible with a firearm would leave it in a place where their child even knows they could find it. I lived in a house that contained a combat ready rifle, and I couldn't find the -blam!-ing thing ANYWHERE. I didn't go looking for it, because at a young age, I was taught to be responsible with firearms around, I've fired a few of them myself. .22 LR, .40 handgun 9mm glock, and a 30.6 big game rifle. I've also fired a crossbow, which has next to no regulations, but is silent and can kill faster.
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  • Statistics do mean something. Its clear as day. USA has the most killing by firearms in the world. What gun laws. Didn't you read anything I wrote?

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  • I did, but considering that the statistic is functionally false, your entire argument is losing credibility with each passing anti-firearm response. I don't expect to convince you that firearms are the end all be all of protection, but I'm expecting you to realize that they're not nearly as bad as you're making them out to be. [b][i]Responsible[/i][/b] gun owners make it a point to make sure their firearm is cleaned and taken care of, and up and out of reach and sight of children. If you're wondering why your statistic is wrong, look at Mexican gun crime, look at the gun crime in Equador, look at the gun crime in parts of South America, and in a few of the African nations, all of which have gun crime exceeding the U.S. by enormous numbers. Oh, but my points don't count, do they?

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  • How are they functionally false? It lists top countries in the world similar to USA and shows that use has more firearm deaths. How is that functionally wrong?

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  • Because its not a comparison of gun crime across the world.

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  • Edited by Unforgiven: 10/17/2015 12:10:51 AM
    If you need statistics for world comparison simple google it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate here is firearm related death per 100k population - US comes in 10th. But don't compare us to third world countries. Compare instead to Wealthy countries becauses thats a better comparison. Among wealthy countries we are #1.Don't compared us to for example Honduras - the country that is plagued by gang wars. That would not be a good comparison. The best comparison would be to countries of similar income and life expectancy. Any other comparison would be flawed. And the fact that Switzerland has the lowest mortality rate by guns. Is just skews the whole statistic, because their entire economy is based on Banking. If they had mass murder their banks wouldn't be profitable. There is a reason why people hold their money in Switzerland. Its because it is an easy way to hide money. But I am going off topic now.

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