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10/16/2015 1:37:26 AM
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Titans have bad abilities other than their super, compared to warlocks and hunters.
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My bad, I forgot that shoulder charge wasn't a OHKO, lighting grenades were absolutely terrible etc. Without super I don't really see any hunter class being that great either compared to warlocks. With super, yes hunters I'd say are the strongest in pvp, but without you can't compete against warlock melee/grenades so it's not just Titans.
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Hunters have evade on 1 subclass which has ridiculous cool down. They also have a melee that they can throw and it causes the target to move slowly trapping them, aswell as doing damage over time and nearly kill if it sticks an enemy. On the other they have abilities that allow sliding distance to increase(overpowered when paired with shotguns) and weapons to instantly ready, aswell as the ability to teleport. Their last subclass has a throwing knife that can be thrown from a short distance that can do DoT aswell, on said subclass they also have a grenade that can wipe and entire team (tripmine) and the ability to get another throwing knife.
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Shoulder charge isn't in the melee tree. You still have to be in the face to kill with it, and considering shotguns still have ridiculous range it's easy to kill a guy using shoulder charge.
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I never said it was in the melee tree. You said they had poor sub classes apart from the supers. I disagreed. Granted sun breaker is all about its super but striker is a pretty damn solid sub class for pvp even without a super. But yes I agree shotguns can be a joke when you try shoulder charge. I was just trying to make a point that Titans aren't that worthless if they don't have a super.
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I just think they are at a far bigger disadvantage compared to the other two. Warlocks definitely have the best passive abilities but hunters are no joke, titans however are the laughing stock of crucible. That's why the top players are using warlocks and hunters
