False. Everyone had to use thorn to compete in crucible. you did not have to be good or bad with it, you needed it to compete. I'm not defending sun breaker for your shitty PVP experience. I'm defending it for my PVE experience. you asshats who always want nerfs because shit kills you in crucible ruin the PVE aspects of what ever is getting nerfed. I make no excuses for PVP i suck. but that doesn't change the fact i had to, and so did you, need to use thorn to compete in crucible. Sound logic is sound