The shotguns in question weren't the issue; [i]Shot Package[/i] and [i]Rangefinder[/i] were. And, as it happens, those perks (and almost every other Year 1 perk) have both been nerfed to address the issue. ;) Also- do people not realize that Year 1 weapons ARE STILL JUST AS EFFECTIVE IN CRUCIBLE? I can still use my Matador in PvP [i]right effing now[/i], so why the hell is it capped at 170? The only players that are [i]negatively[/i] effected by this are the PvE players (like myself). -_-

Exactly sir. Reforged weapons is what you're trying to say but remember all the scrubs who asked for it? Now every year one weapon suffers because Bungie said "Screw it. We made a mistake listening about reforge so let's just leave all year one weapons behind." On another note, those shotguns you mentioned are junk without shot package. Hit the one hitter quitter or you die due to rate of fire.

If Bungie just could the dmg a lil away like on the Hopscotch Pilgrim...