Eveerybody remembers people complaining over snipers and final round, where players would dump their clip and just use the final body shot. I'm response to this, bumgie nerfed the perk...AND THEN ADDED A GUN THAT DOES DOUBLE DAMAGE UNLIMITED AMMO.
Wait till Trials when players start dumping their clip to get unlimited super fast double damage shots with Touch of Malice. We just found the new meta.
I suggest a nerf where the double damage only procs if the player using it has a higher kill death ratio than the other player, since he would have won the gun battle anyway. This keeps it fair to everybody.
Bump this so bumgie nerfs it before this mess happens in 2 weeks!
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Why is everybody saying ToM is bad in pvp? It is an absolute beast. A full auto fast firing infinite final round eye of the storm scout is bad? You can land two head shots before they can even put a bullet in you by then they're dead.
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I'd love to come across a teach of ToM. A fire fight where you help me drain your health? Superb
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It doesn't do double damage in crucible, it does extra but not double
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Yeah it will... I was using it yesterday in rumble for the marks and when I was done I had actually won. (For the first time ever.) And I had some tough competition. All you have to do is run around with it only having the last bullet in the mag and you melt kids like they are the witch in the wizard of Oz and you have a water gun.
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Not it won't! I've tried it in crucible and it sucks! You'll have no problem taking out someone if they're using the malice simply because it just ain't a pvp weapon
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Lold about your balance suggestion, but ToM does only 1.5 times more dmg in pvp.
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ToM is really bad in pvp
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Stop complaining because it's a difficult weapon to get. For us every day players we want something to help us stay alive and frosty out-here.!
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Lvl 298 Hunter looking for 2 for undying mind strike, same GT as above
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No bc u lose health making it easier to kill u. All i need is a sniper body shot on u n b4 u can kill me wt crits ull be dead.
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Dude its not a good pvp gun, at the expense of taking away 1/5 of their health to challenge my gun skill is in my favor. They will die everytime. Only time they will get me is getting me off guard and that is my own fault.
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It's still a three shot
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You're an idiot.
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This is a joke right?
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Edited by itsgroot: 10/7/2015 3:35:15 AMYes. Double damage and unlimited ammo THAT DAMAGES YOU EACH SHOT WITH THE FINAL ROUND. You are literally making an issue out of something that is already balanced. With the bonus damage, it's barely more than other scout rifles in the game. So, pair that with the health-sap you get a shitty weapon to use for trials. Think before posting.
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I deem thee unworthy of my urethra. Silence, Fiend.
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[quote]I suggest a nerf where the double damage only procs if the player using it has a higher kill death ratio than the other player, since he would have won the gun battle anyway. This keeps it fair to everybody.[/quote] K/D isn't everything. This is just giving certain players EVEN MORE of an advantage over players who don't have that K/D.
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Dude... All you have to do is let them weaken themselves and hit them with a body shot from a 1000 yard stare for an easy kill.
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You DO realize every shot during that "mode" ears your health as well right?
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It's bad in PvP. Red death, bad juju, and hawk moon will be what everyone uses
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My friends were talking about doing this today Lol. I don't recommend it, unless they you're in a 1v1 situation.
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Can someone help me
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You do realize that it doesn't do double in crucible, and that other guns are way better than it.
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Haha kd is such a bad reason to make the fun work. If nothing else the reasoning should be win percentage. Straight kd doesn't mean as much as you think.
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Touch of malice actually does not get double damage in pvp its actually more like a 30% increase in damage in pvp and when the weapon starts eating your health away it causes you to flinch each time the final round is shot therefore more recoil