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Edited by freshlydunbread:
10/2/2015 2:20:20 AM
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[quote]So please read this thread with actual numbers pulled by DTR statistics not someone testing...
Enjoy:
[quote]Not my post, but you people need facts
Here are some numbers for you all courtesy of DTR's community statistics
I also didn't realize this forum suddenly became somewhere that requires perfect statistical presentation.
Super kills (PVP)
Hunter Nightstalker 54,549,041 (4.90%)
Titan Sunbreaker 30,933,744 (2.78%)
Warlock Stormcaller 28,664,865 (2.58%)
Grenade kills (PVP)
Hunter Nightstalker 31,135,311 (4.11%)
Warlock Stormcaller 26,611,954 (3.51%)
Titan Sunbreaker 16,019,668 (2.11%)
Melee kills (PVP)
Warlock Stormcaller 38,775,697 (3.16%)
Hunter Nightstalker 32,853,317 (2.68%)
Titan Sunbreaker 29,285,716 (2.39%)
Sooooooo. You were saying how sunbreakers get sooooooooo many kills with their overpowered hammers yet they still have less super kill then the hunter SUPPORT class.
Edit 1.
Class breakdown
33.5% warlock with 3% being stormcaller
32.3% titan with 3% being sunbreaker
34.2% hunter with 4% being nightstalker
These are updated every 15 minutes by destiny tracker. I didn't collect these. The low percentage is because the subclass percentage is based upon what percentage of tracked games they have been in.
Edit 2: actual numbers for classes for you
Warlock 1,854,319
Titan 1,786,529
Hunter 1,890,494
source:
http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population
Edit 3: here are the stats for all subclasses. These have been updated so the numbers should be different from the ones above
Super kills (PVP)
Hunter Bladedancer 201,044,918 (18.06%)
Hunter Gunslinger 199,808,670 (17.95%)
Titan Striker 186,291,620 (16.73%)
Warlock Sunsinger 152,393,823 (13.69%)
Warlock Voidwalker 131,789,812 (11.84%)
Titan Defender 124,945,236 (11.22%)
Hunter Nightstalker 55,925,202 (5.02%)
Titan Sunbreaker 31,783,917 (2.85%)
Warlock Stormcaller 29,448,846 (2.64%)
Grenades:
Warlock Sunsinger 174,401,439 (22.98%)
Hunter Bladedancer 121,434,967 (16.00%)
Hunter Gunslinger 114,520,912 (15.09%)
Warlock Voidwalker 108,105,902 (14.24%)
Titan Striker 94,212,758 (12.41%)
Titan Defender 70,645,856 (9.31%)
Hunter Nightstalker 31,920,719 (4.21%)
Warlock Stormcaller 27,326,515 (3.60%)
Titan Sunbreaker 16,443,142 (2.17%)
Melee:
Warlock Sunsinger 284,839,168 (23.19%)
Titan Striker 203,237,949 (16.55%)
Warlock Voidwalker 177,393,092 (14.44%)
Hunter Bladedancer 170,332,624 (13.87%)
Titan Defender 153,350,640 (12.49%)
Hunter Gunslinger 135,263,513 (11.01%)
Warlock Stormcaller 39,855,529 (3.25%)
Hunter Nightstalker 33,721,785 (2.75%)
Titan Sunbreaker 30,104,721 (2.45%)
Edit: [quote]Okay, it seems there's way to many people sticking to the argument,
There are more Hunters than Warlocks/Titans therefore they're are going to have more kills.
If you agree, then this is for you.
These stats were derived from a sizable portion of the population using the most recent statistic. 5.54 million games played as a specific subclass total.
Hunter 1,894,406
Warlock 1,858,093
Titan 1,790,357
4% of Titans' and Warlocks' tracked games were played as Sunbreakers and Stormcallers. 5% of the Hunters' tracked games were played as Nightstalkers. Those of you with even a little bit of background in math already start to see a problem here ;)
We can conclude that:
92524 games were played as a Nightstalker
75619 games were played as a Stormcaller
71461 games were played as a Sunbreaker
And now to put everything on an equal playing field.
Super Kills Avg per:
Nightstalker - 619
Sunbreaker - 474
Stormcaller - 419
Melee Kills Avg per:
Stormcaller - 566
Sunbreaker - 448
Nightstalker - 375
Grenade Kill Avg per:
Stormcaller - 387
Nightstalker - 354
Sunbreaker - 245
Total Kills Avg per:
Stormcaller - 1372
Nightstalker - 1348
Sunbreaker - 1167
Hmm, would you look a that. Seems like it wouldn't matter if there was an equal amount of Hunters, Warlocks and Titans. Hunters and Warlocks would be neck and neck yet Titans would still come in dead last.
I wonder how such an OP subclass ends up with the least amount of kill[/quote]
Well then here's one that does:)
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Yes let's please ignore the population factors between the Hunter, Titan, and warlock. Also, let's ignore the people who don't have the DLC, and the fact that the older subclasses have been out for longer. It amazes me how people could take their time, gather all of that data, and still be retarded with it.
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Edited by freshlydunbread: 10/2/2015 2:43:22 AMThe post actually [i]specifically mentions population factors[/i]. LOL It also [i]compares just the new subclasses[/i]. But please, keep up the derision!
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Oh really? Because in the first past of that post he compares the subclasses [i]regardless of population factors because he hadn't done it yet[/i]. Then, in his 1st edit, OP of that thread compares all of the classes in general, [u]still ignoring population factors[/u]. What gets me the most is how absurd the data is. You people go: "Hurr Hurr there's more super kills for nights talker than Sunbreaker meaning Sunbreaker isn't op!!!" A clear evidence of this is grenades. What grenades does the Sunbreaker have? Fusion and Incendiary, two huge damage dealing grenade. What does the night stalker gave? A single decent avoidable wall of void. Yet the night stalker still has more kill. It has even been put in record that Datto, and Triple wreck [u]both[/u] have said the Sunbreaker is overpowered. A major destiny player and a major PvP player. I also just sat here trying to decipher the huge mass of data that you just responded to me. In no way shape or form does he even convert the subclass totals to being equal with each other. He even says it himself that there is a whole 1% more of hunters than warlocks/ Titans. He then just throws numbers on the screen without any evidence of how he got them, or where they came from because he sure as hell didn't get them from the destiny tracker link. Also gotta love it when scrubs try talking balance in crucible, that barely positive K'D? Yeah ok.
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Edited by freshlydunbread: 10/2/2015 3:07:13 AM[quote]Also gotta love it when scrubs try talking balance in crucible, that barely positive K'D? Yeah ok.[/quote] So my opinion is invalidated because it doesn't meet your made up standards? That's called a fallacious argument!
