lol I love destiny but even I need to play other games. mad max is amazing. warframe is fun with friends. when I was forced to grind PVP for something I ended up buying farmign simulator and playing that for a week because I was "sick of this shit!". but after about a week I was back to enjoying destiny and avoiding pvp. I enjoy pretty much everything destiny has to offer except when they force you into PVP for pve quests. the thorn quest is an example, the exotic sword quest is another, that almost had me going back to farming simulator again lol.