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Edited by DC_Rich: 10/27/2015 7:29:21 PM
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The Taken King.... More like The Taken Kontent

Never have I played a game that removed content and put it all behind a paywall. This is a new low in the video game industry, and Activision and Bungie should be ashamed of themselves. I can no longer play the only things I enjoyed in the game, as they were all taken away. I was thinking about buying TTK, but couldn't afford it just yet. So, I figured I would just do weeklies, play control, do some higher level strike playlists, and maybe some Iron Banner when it drops. Well, can't do any of that now. As a result of this under-handed business tactic, I will not be purchasing TTK, as I cannot support developers who treat their customers this way. Now, before your even mention the EULA, know that there are consumer protection laws for some people, that prevent anyone from agreeing to an unfair contract, even if they previously accepted this agreement. And, I believe they are in violation of these LAWS, which the EULA is not. *EDIT: for those interested, I have filed formal complaints with the BBB, as well as the Washington State Attorney General's Office Consumer Protection Division. I guess we will see just how far Bungie is legally allowed to take things, and if they are legally in the wrong. As consumers, it is our right to complain of injustices, regardless of EULA's. Anyone refuting this fact is nothing short of ignorant. Now we will see what the law has to say. *Edit: it's amazing how toxic this community is. It seems there is no camaraderie in this community, and people just resort to personal attacks at the first sign of someone having a different opinion, or a genuine issue with the product. Bungie, in my opinion, made a shitty decision, and showed they don't care for anyone who does not purchase TTK, and all the fanboy's can't see past their blind love for the game. So I pose a question to everyone. Ignoring the EULA, what do you think of the way Bungie has handled this expansion roll-out with regards to those that have not purchased it? Put yourselves in their shoes, and give an honest answer. *Edit: For those that care, the BBB complaint has been processed, and Activision has until October 02, 2015 to respond. Apparently hundreds of people have filed complaints against Activision for various games, with amicable resolutions. There is hope. *Edit: just to clear a misunderstanding. I own the game and the first 2 expansions. I paid over $100 for all that just like everyone else. I don't want anything for free. I just want what I have always had... What everyone always had. *Edit: So, Activision responded to my complaint, and had the following to say: [quote]I understand your frustrations, I have dealt with other cases similar to yours. Unfortunately we are not in a situation to provide refunds or compensation. Unfortunately the only thing I am capable of doing for you is to pass along any feedback you might have. I do not know if this policy will change in the future. If there was more I could do, I would do it with no questions asked. For now if you have any more feedback please feel free to update this case along with your Gamertag/PSN ID. Thank you for your time and have a good day.[/quote] They assume that all I want is money. I just want the features back. I already responded to them, and the BBB case. It seems Activision really doesn't care to solve the issue... big surprise there. *Edit: For those that have not seen this. If Bungie is forced to do this, does that not mean their EULA was in violation of these customer's rights? They are forced to right a wrong, and have been given a reasonable window in which to address it. And yes, they are providing storage upgrades. [url]https://www.destinythegame.com/size-requirements[/url] *Edit: To all those following this, I have just received a response back from the Attorney General's Office Consumer Protection Division of Washington State. They have reviewed my complaint, and deemed it appropriate to move forward. Note, this is a law office deeming this a valid complaint regarding the Consumer Protection Act. So, if they see this as a valid complaint, what right does anyone else have to label this otherwise? They know the law better than you. *Edit: This may be my final edit. For those interested, it appears you can get a refund on your purchase by sending your disc into Activision, and requesting a refund. As per Bungie's EULA, if you do not agree with the terms therein, you are entitled to a refund. So, any guardians out there that don't agree with what happened, and would like a refund, just send your disc to Activision and request one. One final note, should you do this, Bungie will apparently delete your characters and Destiny account from their servers; you have been warned.

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  • This man has made very very valid points, how would you like every single game you play have very large amounts of cut content sold to you for a high price. Not only is he completely right but more than half of you show no support at all.

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    • [quote]So I pose a question to everyone. Ignoring the EULA, what do you think of the way Bungie has handled this expansion roll-out with regards to those that have not purchased it? Put yourselves in their shoes, and give an honest answer. [/quote] I will only respond to this, as the rest will most likely cause unrest. I can respond on a personal level instead of critiquing business strategies. If I had not paid for Taken King, the loss of content wouldn't bother me. I already had 1500+ hours logged into the game. Way more than the majority of games I've played. The only games that come close is Black Ops 2 and The Mass Effect Trilogy. Anyway, I still have a big backlog. Maybe I'd move onto that. Bungie cares about these complaints, as it informs them of what works and doesn't. Activision cares about the size of the player base. So, either way, complaining or leaving the game will affect the direction of the game. Not trying to sound like a cynical ass, but do what feels right to you. File business complaints. Post more of these forums. Leave the game. These are all ways to steer the game you love, or don't into a direction you want to see it going.

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    • Bump4truth

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    • Edited by Silly Sod: 9/20/2015 8:35:38 PM
      TTK is actually very good - yes initial play though is easy (due to not being able to level down to match diffficulty) but when difficulty cranks up on daily and heroic strikes it is pretty awesome. Enemies do come after you if you shoot them so the AI is pretty good. I was prepared for disappointment - got confused with the marks and light levels but now seems simple enough The foundry is huge walking around it -- and the strike in this location is worth every penny. TTK has managed to out do both Doom and AVP for atmoshphere and sweaty palm action. No running strikes on TTK and the wars in front of the breach are epic. Not that relevant to the post but nevermind - I would be p*ssed off if I had not bought TTK

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    • Read terms and conditions in the beginning consented to them changing the game at will. Essentially we give them that right by playing

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    • Edited by Parvenu Walrus: 9/20/2015 8:33:05 PM
      Unfortunately, the video game industry as a whole has become this. Businesses find a practice that makes them money, and don't care about anything else. Activision is one of the worst examples, and Destiny as a franchise got dealt some bad cards by being locked in with Activision. But I still bought TTK because its fun, not sorry, was worth the $40.

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    • Honestly, I see what you're saying but Bungie can't really do much more for non-TTK users without making it unfair for the people who actually went out and paid for it. You don't need the current level cap because Year 1 does not require you to have any more than a level 34 for anything available before TTK. As for everything else, you still have access to all Year 1 content. I just got TTK a few days ago and before the purchase I was still able to do everything I wanted to do, u just didn't have access to MOST of the new content. MOST being that I was still able to receive new gear, weapons, ect. From drops. To me that's unfair to TTK users because I didn't have to pay money for all the extra content. Actually, I really didn't have to purchase TTK at all except for if I wanted to do TTK missions and be a part of the new level cap. Everything else was available for the most part. THAT is probably more unfair than anything.

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    • Bump

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    • This isnt he first This has been going on for a while the mian game is cod

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      • Bump for the truth

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      • Besides strike playlist and night falls nothing has changed

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      • .K.

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      • Edited by D3adMike: 9/20/2015 1:16:25 PM
        Not this again......I'ma nerf you with the mutahorn

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      • TOOOOOOOOOOOL. that is all.

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      • I 100% agree with you. I didn't buy The Taken King and I went on destiny. I was not able to even do Crota!!! Everytime I tried to enter it, it gave a me screen that's like "buy The Taken King".

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      • Just game share all dlc with a close friend. It cost me £30 for the legendary edition of the taken king.

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      • Bunch of pov -blam!-s

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      • Edited by Ev1l_Jeff: 9/20/2015 4:40:33 AM
        Does this guy really think he was able to file a complaint, have it viewed, "processed", and a notice of action against Activision within a couple days...

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        • I appreciate Bungie, and everything that they do. However, I do question if this was this the best decision for their customers. It would also help if Activision was just more involved with the community, and more transparent about their interests and intensions. Bungie is the company who has to make the game, read the feedback, change the game, and repeat. Activision sponsors... They just seem the least bit interested in video games, and more so in their profits. I'm still probably going to purchase it, because when it comes down to it all, I find this GAME (let's all remember this is a game!) entertaining. It fulfills it's purpose.

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          • The content is worth the buy but they shouldn't have pulled content away in the process.

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            • Muted for stupidity

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            • Bump

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            • Tears collected.

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            • TL;DR OP is more of a -blam!- than ever. Quit b!tching. No one wants to see it.

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            • I guess this is mortal kombat with that k in there...

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            • I was iffy about buying it but I decided too and I gotta say in my eyes it is worth every penny.. Great production value, and exploring the dreadnought blind was like reliving the glory days of metroid prime exploration on the game cube :) Happy days :)

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