[quote]scarcity, developed? its called the ecosystem. a self contained balance of life that utilizes natural resources, they arent being hostile, are plants hostile for absorbing sunlight? are cows hostile for eating the plants? are we hostile for eating cows? is bacteria hostile for eating us? its funny how people only view one of these exchanges of energy as hostile. its cause we are humans who were created with a conscience mind that knows the difference between right and wrong and the ability to make our decisions even if we choose to do the wrong thing. because (obviously) we have a loving god who wants us to know what the right thing is even if he doesnt make us do it. and thats really funny about the universe being created by magic. why dont you talk to some cosmologists. they have no problem admitting that whatever was happening at the beginning of the universe, it has nothing to do with what we understand as reality. our concepts of math, time, speed, or space deteriorate as you look back to the singularity (not to mention whatever was 'before') at least what we call magic operates within our understanding of reality so ya, looking back its obviously not a magical event but something much more profound! its never too late accept the truth[/quote] Apparently you think hostile means evil. No, I mean hostile as in predatory/consuming instincts. This includes taking the life of other things. Yes, cows are the hostile entities when they eat the grass to the grass, just as wolves are to the cows when they eat the cows and when cannibals hunt and consume other people. Plants are not hostile towards the sun for absorbing sunlight though due to that being an inanimate and bound-to-happen thing. Simple stuff, really... Right and wrong don't matter in nature. Only survival. Humans created concepts of right and wrong in order to maintain social unity in our tribes per an evolutionary process that developed us to become social beings in order to increase our rates of survival. Don't jump to conclusions without proof, it isn't logical. If you knew anything about magic (you [i]obviously[/i] don't), then you would comprehend that magic is the channeling of either spiritual or natural forces by manipulation of the ether. That is, the fabric of reality. Manipulation of time and probability. Those are bound by the universe, hell, magic's explicit creation in all prefaiths was the dissolution or destruction of a cosmic entity or order