A universe just popping into existence is just as, if not more feasible than a creator god? cool dude, i didnt know that. of course for me to fully except this premise i would like to see your calculations. im a big fan of odds and probabilities so of course im very excited to see these fascinating equations you used to come to this stern conclusion. please hurry, i want to make sure anybody who reads this thread doesnt think youre just talkin out your butt.