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9/11/2015 2:10:57 AM
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The forerunners utilize slipspace rifts to send energy across galaxies instantly. Bam, done. That is, of course, implying the halo rings need to follow the real rules, which they don't. They exist as they do in their universe, therefore the rules of their universe must be such that the halo rings can exist as they do. It doesn't need to follow the rules of reality because it isn't real. I'm not sure why you can't comprehend this.
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  • An energy burst if traveling thru slip space is not traveling through our universe air go can not effect anything within our universe until it arrives at its destination; You see why i said each particle would need to know exactly where and when it was going to hit its target if it used slipspace to get there?

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  • So? They send many of them out at all different trajectories and across a variety of distances. This is easy stuff.

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  • Not when you take TIME into account. The halo rings ONLY destroy life in the galaxy AFTER the halos are fired; if they use slipspace to get to their targets that means EACH halo must direct each particle of the blast to a specific TIME AND SPACE within the universe AND at all times each Halo must know WHERE EVERY SINGLE life form within its radius is! Its not that sophisticated!

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  • It doesn't have to know where each one is. It just has to hit every possible spot. Piece of cake.

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  • Not really, sub space is OUTSIDE this universe so ANY blast wave moving through subspace HAS NO effect on our universe. Hence if using subspace (a point A to B only travel method) it needs to know where to go before going there

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  • So they hit every spot in the universe through a series of waves. This isn't complicated.

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  • Cept that would require somethin like 1/2 the energy in the universe to do; not to mention that they dont do that, they only wipe life from ONE galaxy and life only inhabits less than 1% area coverage of a galaxy.

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  • Your math?

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  • Edited by DarthBrando: 9/12/2015 4:31:00 AM
    Less than 1% of galaxy is inhabited: Only 2/3 of the systems in a galaxy are in safe livable galactic zones (not in the galactic core: too much cosmic radiation there, not in nebulae: waaay to hot there, not in systems with giant stars: too much solar radiation, ect...) Out of the remaining 1/3 of the galaxy by our estimates 1 in 500 to 1500 of systems have an m class planet capable of supporting life. Thats 200,000,000 to 600,000,000 possible planets capable of supporting life out of several TRILLION (thats already at 0.2%-0.6% of ALL galactic star systems(systems in our galaxy)) let alone area of that galaxy covered by life forms. On earth life forms inhabit 0.000009% to 2% of the entire planet's area (all atmosphere included) Now to blanket all areas of the universe at once means you need to cover that entire area with what ever SUB ATOMIC particles the halo array uses. SUB atomic particles are extremely small (not that much energy to create) but the amount you need to cover 1 CUBIC METER is already something like 1,000 TRILLION x10^40 Thats 1,000 trillion with 40 extra zeros and thats just one cubic [u][i][b]METER[/b][/i][/u] that bein said; heres how BIG the universe is: Earth is to the milky way (our galaxy) what ONE ATOM is to EARTH. The milky way is to the observable universe what one electron is to the size of the earth. The observable universe is to the universe what one atom is to our solar system. So its so ridiculously large we literally cant comprehend it or build a computer powerful enough to compute its size+ everything in it on a true 1 to 1 life sized scale (the entire universe not just the observable) The observable universe is something like 36x BILLION light years in every direction from our solar system out; An to the actual size of the universe the observable universe's 72 billion light year diameter is only what a SINGLE ATOM represents within the space of our ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM. So yea if u wanted to blanket ALL the universe with sub atomic particles YOU NEED more than HALF THE ENERGY IN THE [u][i][b]ENTIRE UNIVERSE[/b][/i][/u] to do it.

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  • Less than 1% of the galaxy is inhabited by life? How do you know how much life is in the galaxy? Did you count? I doubt it [spoiler]I doubt we can accurately calculate how much life there is if we haven't even discovered other life yet.[/spoiler]

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  • So now you're saying the rings fire subatomic particles? Before it was energy. Make up your mind.

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  • Dude, you need to give up. You are way outclassed here.

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  • Energy consists of particles or waves; light is the only one that can be both; unless the halos use sonic or thermal or radio or microwave or brain waves(unless its those 5) the halos emit PARTICLE ENERGY. All particle energy IS made of sub atomic particles.

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  • If and your proof that it doesn't fire those?

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  • Sonic, thermal, radio, brain waves all travel considerably slower than light, So it has to fire particle energy Also thermal, sonic, radio, microwave, and brainwaves cant go through large solid objects. So yea it fires some particle energy. The only thing other than those 5 other methods and particle energy is "dark energy" aka energy we dont know what the blam it is.

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  • Edited by BenjyX55: 9/14/2015 12:07:52 PM
    Except that the energy doesn't need to go fast. It just needs to be transported through slipspace. What do you not understand about this? It's mindlessly simple. I'm sorry you're too blinded by Star Wars fandom. And the forerunners are advanced enough to probably know what dark energy is.

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  • If it goes through slipspace: You [b][i][u]HAVE[/u][/i][/b] to direct each particle and transport it [b][i][u]directly to target![/u][/i][/b] stuff in slipspace is OUTSIDE this dimensional plane of existence (aka outside the universe) and CAN NOT interact with anything in this universe until it EXITS slipspace. Its nof fanboyism thats actual physics.

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  • That's trying to implement physics to something that is theoretically beyond our capacity. Our current understanding of physics probably doesn't even come close to the physics of these [b][i][u]fictional [/u][/i][/b] universes

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  • Actually no; The physics on theories of warp, slipspace, hyperspace, ftl jump drives, wormholes ect All already exists and has been mathematically postulated on

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  • I know those theories exist..I'm saying it's illogical to try to scientifically prove [b][i][u]Science Fiction [/u][/i][/b]

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  • Why? On long enough time line all science fiction either becomes fact or is proven incorrect

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  • I remember you.. you are that annoying kid trying to sound smart.. and? Currently it's fictional. Our sciences are hundreds, if not thousands of years from making any type of space faring technology feasible. You said it yourself, every theory is either proven over time, or incorrect.. what you talk about is currently theories.. therefore there is a chance for it being incorrect. This poll, was made to find out what the public liked better, star wars or halo. And the numbers saod halo.

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  • Wow guy im 27 first and yea We have most of the math done for FTL what we lack are the tech and resources and navigation capabilities (we still cant see a lot of debris out there and chart all of that stuffs movement in real time) At moment to get the ball rolling we just need the helium 3 isotope in high abundance. Once we have that within 20 years we should have interplanetary capable FTL jump drives. Still long way navigation wise from being able to go system to system though.

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  • You already used this argument and I explained why it's wrong. With a name like "Darth Brando", it's not hard to see where your biases lie.

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  • Edited by DarthBrando: 9/15/2015 4:32:14 PM
    You did not explain how something outside this dimensional space time can still effect ANYTHING inside of it. And according to; Relativity, quantum physics, string theory, multiverse theory, and all other relevant scientific theory; nothing OUTSIDE DIMENSIONAL UNIVERSAL SPACE TIME can affect ANYTHING within it. Weather its in a parallel dimension, a micro cosmos, an alternate universe, a wormhole, a sub space strata layered dimension, an Einstein Rosenberg bridge, or a Black Hole. If it is [b][i][u]OUTSIDE OF THE 4 DIMENSIONAL PLANE OF SPACE TIME IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT ON ANYTHING WITHIN THAT 4 DIMENSIONAL SPACE TIME.[/u][/i][/b] So unless halo array floods the entire universe or the entire galaxy instantly with those particles by transporting each particle through subspace to its intended location;----> it WONT WORK and would require more than 50% of the energy in the universe or galaxy to accomplish. The other subspace method is transport the needed particles to only their targets locations. This requires FAR less energy but; [b][i][u]YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE EVERY TARGET IS AND HOW MUCH MASS AND DENSITY EACH TARGET HAS[/u][/i][/b] AND either way you have to direct the particles to an exact location not just in space but in TIME! All the evidence referenced in this post states that use of subspace to transport halo energy/particles to targets [b][i][u]IS IMPOSSIBLE[/u][/i][/b] that evidence says that. Im not bashing it cuz i have a star wars name. (Same handle ive used for 10 years on the internet btw) Im bashing it cuz its [b][i][u]flat out wrong on the science[/u][/i][/b]

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