1. Get on destiny right now, get some machine gun and see how long it takes you to obtain field scout... youll run out of motes and weapon parts. Also a google search would work. 2. I actually play pve more than i do pvp. But the fact of the matter, is its op for pvp. I didnt say field scout makes them drestically op, it just gives a clear cut advantage, and its going to be even easier to dodge rockets than it is now. Im gonna guess you dont pvp much. If i can kill most before they shoot anything, and its going to be even easier to dodge, ive already been on 15+ killstreaks with it. since you cannot get it anymore for these guns, there are other perks you can no longer obtain that make certain weapon types OP and thats why they removed them. Not "crazy OP" but they want to balance the game and it would be unfair for new players. You said if i bring up a strong point youd agree, but i highly doubt it, youve been spouting this bullshit for months, and im pretty sure youve been hit with logic by 100s and 100s of other people. It just isnt considered what YOU think is a viable reason. Btw, i edited my last post, before you posted yours. PS. I kill snipers with machine guns all the time because none of the maps have enough range to disable me from doing that unless youre on combined arms.