Damn, well that says a lot. It's such a shame though. I remember watching the Bungie history vidoc they released around the time of halo:reach. They started as just a small group of friends making video games and marty was one of that group. That he's now been pushed out of the company for being unhappy with the state of the game tells me that the bungie we used to know really has gone. A tear shed for the memory of what bungie used to be.