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9/6/2015 3:24:42 AM
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Okay, how about this?
Science describes the natural world, and does not explain it. Religion explains purpose and being, and the supernatural.
Religion is belief. If you can prove that a God exists, there is no religion. Then, you are following a being that is within our mortal realm.
And lastly, you have said that "Religion is a cancer that can only be purged by eradication." First off, you seem to bash Christianity and nothing else. You say religion as a whole, yet you only focus on a portion of it. If it's a cancer, cut the whole tumor out, not a small section. And you bring up Christianity doing horrible things, name something horrible that Christianity has done in the last ten years. The Westboros don't count, since I think any Christian with half a brain can realize those are extremists.
[spoiler]Let's see how he responds to me tugging on his fishing hook. [/spoiler]
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Yea, don't bother replying to my reply, pussy, it's obvious that I destroyed your sorry ass.
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[quote]Okay, how about this? Science describes the natural world, and does not explain it. Religion explains purpose and being, and the supernatural.[/quote] Uh, yes, science does explain the natural world. You're an idiot if you think it doesn't. It explains [i]how[/i] life evolved. It explains [i]how[/i] particles behave. I have no idea what the -blam!- you're talking about. Religion attempts to explain that, but all it has are uneducated guesses. The problem with religion is that it starts with a conclusion (God is real) and works backwords, trying to find evidence for their conclusion, while ignoring evidence against them. Plus, the supernatural doesn't exist. Use your brain, kid. [quote] Religion is belief. If you can prove that a God exists, there is no religion. Then, you are following a being that is within our mortal realm. [/quote] Wrong again. You think that if people found out that God was real, they'd stop going to church, stop praying, stop reading the Bible and living by its teachings? Moron. [quote]And lastly, you have said that "Religion is a cancer that can only be purged by eradication." First off, you seem to bash Christianity and nothing else. You say religion as a whole, yet you only focus on a portion of it. If it's a cancer, cut the whole tumor out, not a small section. And you bring up Christianity doing horrible things, name something horrible that Christianity has done in the last ten years. The Westboros don't count, since I think any Christian with half a brain can realize those are extremists.[/quote] 1) None of that is relevant to the OP. 2) I only bash christianity on this site, because 95% of religious people on here are christians. Why would I preach to Muslims here when there are next to none who would hear my message? 3) The WBC are still christians, whether you like it or not. You're committing a "No True Scotsman" fallacy right there. 4) Why only within the last 10 years? Christians have been doing horrible shit since the religion was founded. The main thing you idiots have been doing recently is discriminating against gays, forcing your beliefs on them, and not treating them as equals. [quote][spoiler]Let's see how he responds to me tugging on his fishing hook. [/spoiler][/quote] I responded by destroying you.
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[quote][quote]Okay, how about this? Science describes the natural world, and does not explain it. Religion explains purpose and being, and the supernatural.[/quote] Uh, yes, science does explain the natural world. You're an idiot if you think it doesn't. It explains [i]how[/i] life evolved. It explains [i]how[/i] particles behave. I have no idea what the -blam!- you're talking about. Religion attempts to explain that, but all it has are uneducated guesses. The problem with religion is that it starts with a conclusion (God is real) and works backwords, trying to find evidence for their conclusion, while ignoring evidence against them. Plus, the supernatural doesn't exist. Use your brain, kid. [quote] Religion is belief. If you can prove that a God exists, there is no religion. Then, you are following a being that is within our mortal realm. [/quote] Wrong again. You think that if people found out that God was real, they'd stop going to church, stop praying, stop reading the Bible and living by its teachings? Moron. [quote]And lastly, you have said that "Religion is a cancer that can only be purged by eradication." First off, you seem to bash Christianity and nothing else. You say religion as a whole, yet you only focus on a portion of it. If it's a cancer, cut the whole tumor out, not a small section. And you bring up Christianity doing horrible things, name something horrible that Christianity has done in the last ten years. The Westboros don't count, since I think any Christian with half a brain can realize those are extremists.[/quote] 1) None of that is relevant to the OP. 2) I only bash christianity on this site, because 95% of religious people on here are christians. Why would I preach to Muslims here when there are next to none who would hear my message? 3) The WBC are still christians, whether you like it or not. You're committing a "No True Scotsman" fallacy right there. 4) Why only within the last 10 years? Christians have been doing horrible shit since the religion was founded. The main thing you idiots have been doing recently is discriminating against gays, forcing your beliefs on them, and not treating them as equals. [quote][spoiler]Let's see how he responds to me tugging on his fishing hook. [/spoiler][/quote] I responded by destroying you.[/quote] You're the best person on these forums, oh my god xD
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 9/6/2015 3:48:22 PMThere is no supernatural. That's not an actual thing. There are just things we don't undersrand yet, and things we do understand because we questioned and tested things. Supernatural = fantasy.
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Well, that's your opinion. But, there's no way to know if there is or not, Like I said, science describes the [u]natural[/u] world. Not something above what is natural for our definition.
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There isn't sufficient evidence for anything that gets called supernatural. That term exists to explain fantastical ideas. IDEAS is the key word. Ideas need to be tested, repeated and verified before being considered reality. Anything that is considered supernatural is still just an idea and nothing more.
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That's because christians as a majority are close minded and hipocrits. Muslims for instance truly practice what they preach. Sure 1% of them are crazy bastards with bombs, but that beats the 1% of Christians who truly care for their niehbors and live truly kind lives. You -blam!-ers pray when it makes you look good... Muslims pray 3 times a day... every day. I spent 6 years in the desert fighting the 1% and I came to love the 99% because they are everything christians claim to be. By the way, if you read the quaran... same book, just different names and they're not dumb enough to believe in some holy human. Jesus was a crazed lunatic seeking power and using magic tricks to gather followers. Nothing more. Muhammad was a preacher, a wander spreading the word of god... not some Devine entity. But hey, what do I know
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First off, I pray every day once a day, alone. I don't go to church, and there are extremists in all religions. Thank you for your service. And secondly, I'm probably the worst Christian in history. Given the fact that I take the lord's name in vain every day, and make baptism jokes... And, I haven't fully read the bible. Just a bit of Genesis.
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The bible is a book. Nothing more. A guide on how to behave in life. Not real stories. That aside in the bible god says to Abraham (after Abraham says, "they worship idols lord, why do you not punish them)... "there is but one true god, any mention or any prayer is heard by only me." Jesus told one of his young deciples "do you punish a blind man for not knowing what his father looks like?" Fact is, Christians are teaching you to think things that aren't in your bible... hence my hate for Christianity... Iv studied all major religions in depth, and know more than most religious people about what they preach about. You're a faithful person, and by the terms of TRUE CHRISTIANITY, you will be in heaven and those casting judgment will be in hell.
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First off, were do you get thes percentages? Seems like you came up with them. Second, sure there are the ones who boast to pray, but the majority pray to their father because thats how we spend time with him. Third, your saying that your such a great muslim yet your bashing us, labeling, and making fun of? Thats not the "muslim" way, sir.
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The percentages are based off of many factors. 2 billion Muslims in the world. Alqiada and ISIS style Muslims make up less than 1% of that population. That's a real study. In 2004 a study showed that less than 5% of Christians have read the bible they preach from front to back. And more than 60% of those surveyed sayed they wanted the Muslims punished for 9/11... which is a violation of jesus' commands. I'm not religious, and not a muslim. I'm open minded and very well studied... unlike most of you Christian hipocrits
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And were did you find this? Until theres a source im not just gonna believe these percetages. And its probably some liberal biased source you found those percentages from. And didnt you say you wash 3 times a day for prayer because your muslim and praising muslims if im not mistaken? And if your so open minded, why bash the christians and just the christians only?
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Are you so close mindedly objective. Like all christians you get angry and make unrealistic objections to validate yourself. Because everyone ever remembers the name of everything they've ever read? Lol. I don't have to state my source, as I don't recall the exact author... nor do I actually care if you believe me. In fact you wouldn't anyways, even if you saw the report. You'd say it's false, or as you just did, call it liberally biased... which by the way, I'm republican. Also born and raised catholic. But I came to learn things you close minded fools never will. Bluntly, you're just another foolish self righteous civilian praising yourself for your religion but doing nothing for your community to uphold any actual humanity or faith. I bled for my country. I came home and I donate my time to my community and it's youth. Not for religious or righteous reasons, but because I care about people. I act. I don't waste time on prayers or church, because prayers don't solve shit. People do
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Edited by Puma7493: 9/6/2015 6:19:33 PMAm i angry right now? Am i self righteous or praising myself? No. Im just interested in the fact your "open minded" yet you completely bash Christianity and nothing else. Lol. Couldnt you say that Islam, Buddhism, etc. would be the same then, close minded?
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Actually no. To quote ghandi, "my problem with Christianity is christians, the words of peace are beautiful but actions of peace would be meaningful." To quote the quaran "Alah is not a man, nor a woman. Not a being at all. Alah is everything. Praising alah is not done in words or in thoughts. He is praised in kindness and actions." Buddhism is a devotion to being humble and peaceful. A lifestyle, not a religion. Islam is devoted to actions of love and kindness. they don't pray for each other, they help one another 100% of the time. In fact they pray 3 times daily, one hour each time, every day. Not to ask God for anything, but to show their gratitude for the day they are given. Christianity on the other hand devotes menial amounts of time and money to help the impoverished. And all the while build million dollar churches, throw extravagant weddings and "church functions". They speak of kind action without performing them... and sure that's not all christians. But it is the majority.
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Yeah I see were your going with that. But there are more than just a few Christians who show their gratitude to God as well and are more humble then those that arent. We also dont always pray just to ask, its more of spending time with him and thanks for all that hes done for us. But yeah, no religion is perfect, and its mostly, in opinion, Catholicism that gives Christianity a bad name.
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There are radical points in anything. Religion just gives fanaticism a "justification". I stay clear of religion. As an old friend of mine said, "every person on earth has their own opinion of god/faith, and no two are exactly alike... Fact is we can't all be right... but we could all be wrong"
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[quote]Science describes the natural world, and does not explain it.[/quote] You lost all credibility there.
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How so? When I say explain, I mean as to why everything exists. Refer to the part of my argument when I said Religion gives humans a sense of purpose.
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Then you should have said that. Science explains everything in the universe, whether we know the science behind it or not. Faith is the only thing keeping religion around.
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I suppose that's true.
