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9/5/2015 7:06:07 AM
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Can someone give me a quick overview?
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  • I'll start from beginning. Marty started working on Destiny score. Bungie wants Marty to make score for whole franchise rather than one game at a time. Marty does and makes an eight part composition. Neither Acti or Bungie push for it's release, Marty gets frustrated. Was to be used for E3 trailer. Acti used his own music. Marty reacts angrily. Bungie vetos this. Marty goes to twitter exposing it was Acti music instead of his. Marty threatens Bungie staff and interrupts press releases. Bungie feels that Marty has own agenda instead of Bungie's, Activision advises firing. Marty isn't fired, but fails review. Destiny story revised and Marty goes on vacation. Marty comes back but does not devote 100% Destiny released. Bungie starts firing process and seizes his shares. Marty goes to court. Decision that seizure of shares against contract. Marty wins.

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  • Interesting.

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  • Edited by XSoldat13: 9/5/2015 8:10:15 AM
    Yep. People see it as proof of Bungie's corruption. I see it more as Bungie didn't know how to handle the situation and was afraid of the consequences this would spell for Destiny. They go to Activision. Instead of giving advice, they go for the easy out. Fire him. Bungie didn't want to lose one of the co-founders, so try to set him back on course. Marty sees this as disciplinary action even though he feels he was in the right. Doesn't feel that his participation is worth it. Puts less effort in. Bungie sees no good outcome for this and do the thing they don't want to. Fire Marty. I think the shares thing was more Activision's work. Try to resell for more. Marty's to blame for his actions, but we saw something a little similar a bit back. With the Luke Smith interview. Both were passionate about their projects, but Marty probably saw his contribution was getting cut out/up and just blew up. As for the massive revision, it could have been a result of the threats. Going public with details of the game. But who knows?

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  • Well yeah, they wanted him to make all the music at once, but that's frankly impossible if it's to be a certain quality as it means all of destiny will have the same sound instead of differing from section and sequel.

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  • Making the music for a 10 year project in one go would have been terrible if George Lucas had done that with Star Wars there wouldn't have been an imperial march!

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  • Exactly, the whole thing sounds fishy like he was trying to be pushed out.

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  • That's what started it. I don't think even Luke Smith knows how the story will play out for the rest of this 10 year, 5 game cycle. How was Martin supposed to know either. This is me guessing again, but he could have made a emotion driven composition. With themes of failure, hope, restoration and beauty to name a few. One thing I do know is that their first major closed press conference, they sat everyone down and told them to imagine the world you would be in with this music playing. Only Activision doesn't see this as good marketing. They, and other developers, see tying pop culture into the game sells more. This is where Martin would see what he thought as his work being destroyed. He worked tirelessly on it. Of course he's going to be mad. The Bungie shutting his protests down is questionable, but all of us would be angry to a varying degree.

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  • Agreed. Instead of making the gourmet meal accesible to the masses they opted for the fast food at unreasonable price approach. Even being an avid zeppelinist, I would love to know what Marty had in mind for the live action trailer.

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  • Very true, the extent to how disruptive to me is questionable, but I feel he was justified. He saw his work being bastardized and that's never a good thing. Also i'm pretty sure the reason why Activison didn't want his music to be released, was that they wanted to save it for the games...but that being said...were they planning on firing him before hand? seriously who asks someone to do all of the work for a 10 year project at once...that just sounds shady.

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  • Edited by XSoldat13: 9/5/2015 8:54:09 AM
    Well, he is justified. That much is true. However, you can't use such justifications in a business. Business does not have emotions. It only has objectives. The main one being how do we make more money? Activision is very good at following this objective. All the work at once is a bit shady. Why they chose this? I don't think we'll ever know. I think it lies a little more in Activision wanting to lock down this project. Save that sure thing. I would have preferred them working on one game at a time. That's just a philosophy I like to follow. "I am more afraid of the man who practiced one kick a thousand times than the man who practiced a thousand kicks." I probably butchered that. But it's Bruce Lee.

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  • Very intelligent summary and perspective.

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