I just love how everyone preaches equality but the minute someone has a different opinion they tear that person a new one
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It's not about opinion, it's about action.
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[quote]I just love how everyone preaches equality but the minute someone has a different opinion they tear that person a new one[/quote]You're allowed to not like gays - whatever. But denying a marriage license to them isn't just an opinion, it's discrimination. Don't get those things confused.
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It's against their values. Either get a new job or these queers should stop bitching and go elsewhere. It's the bakery issue all over again
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Except this time it's in violation of the law
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Not against the law
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They should probably avoid jobs that are going to put them outside their values
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The job didn't involve them handing out licenses to gays originally
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Edited by Dunbrack Rooney: 9/4/2015 2:14:58 PMGays aren't the only ones the bible calls abominations, if she wasn't a hypocrite she would be asking people if they are shrimp or wore clothing made of 2 different materials. But the thing is that that never happens Christians always pick and chose which hateful parts of the bible to follow. She definitely gave licences to those people, but if she was actually following the bible she would've known that the job already went against her religion before the law was changed.
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Adapt
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It sounds like you're not very accepting of others views
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And how is that? All I'm saying is that when you have a job, you do it or leave, even when circumstances change. As opposed to what other option?
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They were hired to do something that was different and not against their values. Now you're asking them to go against everything they stand for. Typical liberal
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I'm a far cry from a liberal. I'd also like to point out that refusing service to homosexuals is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus or the Bible. Are you going to stop serving all sinners to be fair? Because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. There are no grounds for these actions other than someone's opinions or feelings, not based at all on the teachings of Christ. The requirements of the job have, at least in your eyes changed, though its still the same actions the clerk would be taking: reading this, signing that. The only difference is who is being served. If they can no longer do what the job requires, what would you have them do? Make them serve against their will? I don't think so. Force those seeking services find someone else? Please, government is inefficient enough as it is. It's not fair to force inconveniences on someone because you feel like it. If the circumstances change where you feel you can no longer do your job as required then you should leave that job. Is that so illogical to you?
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She was hired to do something else and it did not violate her beliefs. Now you're asking her to go against everything she stands for. Do you expect all people to bend over backwards and violate their personal beliefs just to serve gays? If so you are ignorant and far from accepting.
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You didn't address a single point I made.
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If you were the one with the wall I didn't read it
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Must I put it into simpler terms?
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Give me a tl;dr and I might respond
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Edited by Autolycus: 9/4/2015 5:09:33 PM[spoiler][quote] I'd also like to point out that refusing service to homosexuals is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus or the Bible. Are you going to stop serving all sinners to be fair? Because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. There are no grounds for these actions other than someone's opinions or feelings, not based at all on the teachings of Christ. The requirements of the job have, at least in your eyes changed, though its still the same actions the clerk would be taking: reading this, signing that. The only difference is who is being served. If they can no longer do what the job requires, what would you have them do? Make them serve against their will? I don't think so. Force those seeking services find someone else? Please, government is inefficient enough as it is. It's not fair to force inconveniences on someone because you feel like it. If the circumstances change where you feel you can no longer do your job as required then you should leave that job. Is that so illogical to you?[/quote][/spoiler] TL;DR: Refusing service to homosexuals is no where in the bible. The requirements of the job have changed, so you have two options: 1. Do the job. 2. Stop doing the job It's not so complicated. By the way, I would suggest you take a look at what I said in the spoiler before replying. Most of the length is because I was giving the reasons for the conclusion, or responding to possible counter arguments.
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You're a lost cause
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What gives you that impression?
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[quote]It's against their values. [/quote]Refusing the state's goods or services to gays is not a Christian value. [quote]these queers should stop bitching and go elsewhere.[/quote]And let discrimination go unpunished? Nah. [quote]It's the bakery issue all over again[/quote]...in which the bakery was at fault and was breaking the law, too.
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And yet gays are discriminating against this woman
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[quote]And yet gays are discriminating against this woman[/quote]No they aren't.
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She has a right to refuse because it's against everything that she stands for. Then gays have a fit when someone disagrees with them. Let me guess, you're a liberal?