Still doesn't add up dude, they've been on mars for hundreds of years. I mean c'mon, where's the wife and kids they're trying to protect? When running from a foe, you don't make trouble for yourself by finding new enemies. Especially when the enemy of your enemy is that enemy. I'm just saying there's lots of reasons to not shoot at a guardian. Why are the cabal attempting it? Yet they run from hive? Also, why are their weapons and technology NOT geared to resist oryx? Have they spent the last centuries just picking their noses?