They're viable in y1 content and crucible. I had plenty of time to enjoy most of these guns, and a little less time with others, but this is a game. When you say you worked hard I understand but getting ghorn doesn't entitle you to be all mighty and powerful forever until destiny is over. The page has turned, hourglass is turned over, etc yadda yadda. So now we can enjoy the hunt and discovery all over again, but you don't get to just upgrade all your old crap and go back to plinking away with ib/bh/ghorn