Yeah, I understood. I use them too ;) Once you learn to blink / shotgun / melee - PvP changes. I'm just saying its the meta of PvP (those specific skills + weapons + tactics) and that once the majority embraced them as they have now, IMO its no longer cheap tactics but simply tactics (bc most ppl use them). Bungie can remove and Nerf all they want but another meta will take its place and everyone will be using a certain set of items and skills with certain classes ...and the cycle begins again. And again, I don't think using specific in game skills and weapon load outs makes [u]us[/u] the problem. Bungie put them in the game, and we're simply using them. :)