"With the knowledge that my exotics and legendaries may or may not become obsolete with release of a large dlc, the desire to grind and "collect-them-all" is no longer there. Why spend hundreds of hours in raids, strikes, and other "end-game" content when my time will have been wasted because the item I received is perceived as overpowered and subsequently abandoned during the next DLC launch? It fundamentally makes no sense and is counter intuitive, and anyone with common sense would recognize that.
I understand that older weapons are far too superior to bring into the new year, but I didn't ask bungie to make vanilla weapons the best that would ever exist within the Destiny universe, they themselves made that mistake. They set the bar and have been unable to surpass it and are attempting to wipe the slate clean, but in the process they are also telling me that a large majority of the time I spent grinding for weapons in this game was for naught." ~ Kenlaw83
nerf and buff and tweak the gear we have instead of just abandoning it bungie
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It also says that if they were OP what is going to replace them? Weaker weapons? That's not going to make ANYONE happy. If Bungie screws this up, this game will never make it 10 years.
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the point the quote is trying to get across, and one I agree with, is that bungie should use an age old tool that game devs have been using for ages instead of just abandoning year 1 gear that tool is called weapon buffs / nerfs / tweaks
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Bumpety
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Do stuff for fun ... god no not that
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Who doesn't play games for fun the problem with destiny is that it completely relies on replay value. And while the replay value is really high compared to other games, it still doesn't solve the impossible to solve problem of people getting bored with redoing the same thing over and over again. So they used a loophole by adding in gear to grind for, and making people strive for said gear. But with the knowledge that that gear will become obsolete with the release of a new expansion, it greatly decreases the amount of time people wanna invest on grinding out the game. Which is the opposite of what bungie wants it would be much more beneficial for bungie to allow year 1 gear to carry over, but make it cost a lot of time and effort to upgrade old gear and balance the few overpowered gear out so it doesn't seem like year 2 gear is pointless compared to the few godlike weapons we have in year 1
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I thought paying for content was to get new stuff and do new stuff. What was i thinking? That'd just be soooo stupid! How about this if your gonna bitch about it quit the game and delete your characters, terminate your bungie account. Good Day
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wow why so toxic no one ever said they aren't excited for new content We just want to keep old content relevant because maybe we enjoy the old content not that hard of a concept to wrap your head around around
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Your playing the wrong game then. It's not toxic it's how business works can't accept that leave. No one likes a whiner good day.
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I never knew that a well put together quote and then well constructed arguments where considered whining! Wow I guess all presidential candidates do in presidential debates is whine then! it all makes sense now! in/b4 your toxic post sounds more like whining than anything I've ever posted on the forums
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Bye your obviously going to nag all day with me.
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k bye don't really understand why you posted in the first place if all you where gonna do is be toxic but no ones gonna miss you :)
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There you go again. Let someone else play father for you.
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thought you where leaving :) also, you're post made no sense, please elaborate :)
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You people are acting like mmos dont do this all the time. You collect weapons to use them until the next dlc then collect those. Thats how these games always work.
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mmos don't do this all the time however mmorpgs do and just because other games do it, doesn't mean it's a good game mechanic. It's simply a mechanic that is designed by marketing and money to force people to play new content.
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If it was just lvl based damage numbers on weapons you would be right. But its not so your point is moot. Also mmo should read fps.
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[quote]"With the knowledge that my exotics and legendaries may or may not become obsolete with release of a large dlc, the desire to grind and "collect-them-all" is no longer there[/quote] This is the entire reason Bungie are now in damage control mode! You, me and a hell of a lot of other people all came to exactly the same conclusion. They encouraged us to collect all of the exotics. It was the carrot we were told to chase to make our Guardian's Legend. In the TTK reveal they basically said here are some new carrots to chase and forget the old ones. You've already caught those! They genuinely didn't seem to get that most people would be totally reluctant to chase new carrots when those too will be discarded the moment you get them! It's a pointless cycle and only a madman would chase it. Constantly chanting "Maybe this time they will stay relevant like they promised". That old saying "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different outcome". 90% of us will quit after the same actions fail two or three times. Once would have been TDB, twice was HoW. For most people the TTK announcement meant they weren't trying a third time.
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Edited by RennWorks: 8/25/2015 7:46:09 AMThe only reason I don't think year 2 gear will become obsolete is because it's very possible destiny 2 comes out before destiny one can head onto year 3 that being said it's not like the same thing will not happen in destiny 2 which makes me reluctant on continuing with the franchise ( at least to the extent i'm playing it now ) but other than that I 100% fully agree with you and is one of the reasons why i'm for year 1 gear to carry over to year 2
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See, I cant wait for Tuning 2.0, but I also don't understand why Destiny 1 (Vanilla, TDB, HoW AND TTK) couldn't keep ALL exotics relevant for the life of THIS title. I would be more accepting of never seeing these weapons again in Destiny 2 than to see my time wasted for hunting for them all, grinding like hell to maximize their stats, then toss the VAST majority in the trash just because some shinier shit came out on an EXPANSION.
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This game will end Before Destiny 2.
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Okay so in that quote you recognize the dilemma. Bungie can't keep the old weapons because they're poorly designed. But leaving them behind devalues your time as a player. Bungie is doing the right thing imho for making the tough decision and removing the "mistakes" from the equation. Even if one of those mistakes was your favorite.
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They can only get so many chances before everyone's out though, yaknow?
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This forum is a very small portion of the community, so even though lots of people here are whining u wont notice a difference in game
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That's true, out of my 10 or so main friends only I use the forums. If there's anything I know about math, that's about 10 percent