I think you know that's meaningless to me. You might as well say Santa's decided no one gets any presents this year because we've all been bad. Your presumption that I deny god because I'm afraid of the punishment doesn't even make logical sense. If what you claim is true actually [b]is[/b] true, I'd get punished whether I believe or not. I know this, so I wouldn't deny it to avoid punishment since I know that wouldn't work according to your belief system. I 'deny God' simply because I don't believe there is one. It's that simple. No ulterior motive, I just find the evidence woefully lacking.