When I first came to this game I hated pvp, I hated halo pvp. I was one of those players who came onto the forums moaning about the Thorn bounty, then a good guardian gave me some tips and advice, which to my credit I already knew deep down. So I set to work trying to improve my game and I believe I have. Now before people go running off to check my stats they are still bad but for me I have improved a lot. I have no problems with anything that is so say OP in pvp, like sols said its how the game is supposed to be. Every nerf in pvp takes away from the pve game and for me being a guardian is all about being OP. Bungie please please consider your pve community, My experience of a hardcore pvp player is if it can kill you its OP, here's a list of OP things from some top destiny pvp streamers/players that I've heard or read: The ram Hand cannons Lightning grenades Shotguns Fire bolt grenade Sniper rifles Arch bolt Titan bubble Bladedancer Titan orbs Fusion rifles Warlock melee Shoulder charge Blink The list goes on. Things that I want nerfd: Skiff turret The architects A lot of people don't seem to no how to lose with dignity.