That's the dumbest thing I ever heard in destiny. Thorn is the only primary exotic from vanilla that has a burn so to speak. It -blam!-s so much face against them aliens it makes fate bringer look like the devil you don't. Unless it's arc burn. I use the last word in pve because I tried to get good with it. Then I tried it in pvp and i found myself shooting at people even though I was missing I couldn't move towards the enemy so I stopped. Point is the only time thorn is used in pvp is the last 2 days of iron banner. And there was m not successful . try again