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9/16/2015 7:17:15 PM
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Oryx, the Hive, and the Darkness
[b]I am not a Bungie employee, merely a fan who is interested in the lore.[/b]
I strongly believe that Oryx is both Darkness and Hive, but in a different way than Crota. Crota was a creation of Oryx the same way the Hive were a creation of the Five Hive Gods (Oryx, Eir, Ur, Xol, and Yul). While he and his siblings ([url=http://i.imgur.com/BKKtVtx.png]three of which I believe can be seen here[/url]) were made with Darkness, they are Hive. Oryx is not just a Hive.
Oryx is what I call a "true" Hive. He is the original and all other Hive are made in his form, to an extent (as seen above). Oryx is a member of the Darkness and the Hive are based off him, giving reason to why they have a similar appearance to him yet he still having very unique traits (such as wings and the ability to control living creatures).
Now, something that's interesting about this is that there are still four other Hive "gods" to consider. Does that mean there are different variants of Hive that are created by each of the Five? Oryx's direct Hive disciples are the Blood of Oryx, but I'd argue that all the Hive we've seen are of his design. It may even be possible that the other four have different species entirely, or something much different in nature. Perhaps Oryx commands the armies while the others do other things.
The thing this begs an answer to most is if the Hive gods are truly the Darkness or just another rung on the ladder below the top. [url=http://i.imgur.com/jsYs959.jpg]Oryx's dreadnought[/url] is not the same as [url=http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SePcw4hX--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18ixae8746vpsjpg.jpg]the Onyx Pyramids of old[/url], unless the look has changed. No, I think Oryx and the other four might just be a branch of the Darkness that controls the Hive and Taken.
[url=http://i.imgur.com/pNjwh6o.png]The Darkness is coming, and Oryx is just the beginning.[/url]
Thoughts?
Edit: [b]This is an old thread. I'll probably make an updated one that focuses on new information some time soon.[/b]
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Hmm, interesting, I always assumed that Oryx was the Zeus of the pantheon of hive gods, I always applied a human filter to the hive gods, imagining that their structure followed something like that of Greco-roman or Viking culture. However what you're saying gives me interesting ideas, if Oryx is an equal entity to the other hive gods, and these gods are distinctly different, it could be quite possible that Oryx (and the other 4) created each of their races in their own image. This could mean that there are other, completely separate and equally dangerous hive armies out there. Also if Oryx and bros were created by the darkness itself, does the darkness have a physical manifestation that serves as God of gods over the vex/hive? It would be interesting to have a location where both hive and vex are present. Would they fight each other? Also if the darkness spawned both the hive and vex, why are they so different? Also (grab your tinfoil hats) unless I'm confused, the vex were originally organic but turned into machines to avoid something. What if the hive were a race not unlike humans until the darkness created the 5 hive gods these gods were intended as a means of controlling and transforming the hive into the darknesses weapon. However some hive attempted to escape the reaches of the darkness by becoming the vex and escaping from time. However the darkness was able to take control of them in a manner similar the primordial's logic plague on mendicant bias in halo's lore. So the darkness was then in control of two distinct armies/forces, that would explain why the vex and hive are deployed in separate locations, the darkness was attempting to use different forces in ways that befit them best, and the darkness doesn't want them to get in each other's way. So in this way the vex are the tool of the darkness whilst the hive are the tool of the darknesses creations.
